To wonder how we CAN even consider not bringing the girl back from Syria?

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Do we not legally have to? We can't just wipe our hands of her, can we?

I've seen petition after petition on my Facebook feed about not allowing her back, sign the petition, etc etc.

But if she's a British citizen, does she not have every legal right to be here, even if she is vile and dangerous?

I did see someone mention she would have to get here on her own steam, but isn't there a big part in the British passport (I know she hasn't got one but she was entitled and is technically British), that says something along the lines of Her Majesty grants assistance and protection as needed?

Without her baby even coming into the argument, she alone regardless is allowed back here, vulnerable with a newborn or not.

She left to marry, how has it come up that her partner was abusive?

Presumably because he was having sex with a 15 year old?

Jellycat you seem to think this British girl shouldn't even be allowed back in to the UK and that regardless of international law, we should have the right to not accept her. First of all we are not allowed to make her stateless. It's just not legal. By anyone. So put that to bed. Secondly, what you are suggesting is that if a citizen is a possible threat, a country should demand they stay where they are and not come home. So if a terrorist from say Armenia came to the UK to fight against something and spouted hate against Armenia and Armenians you think Armenia should have the right to block them going back to Armenia and force the UK to keep them. Even though they weren't British. That's just dumb.

What was happening in Bethnal Green is a very good question. Because a girl (from the same school?) left the year before these three, and after they went a further 5 were made subject to a travel ban to prevent their leaving.

Potential connection to one (female) recruiter; online, because she left Britain in 2013.

"Presumably because he was having sex with a 15 year old?"

Which is the legal age of consent in Syria. (And indeed in some EU countries)

"It's just not legal"

Says who? These laws haven't been carried down by Moses or flown in by ET. They are man made and can be unmade.

The world won't collapse if this law about not being able to make a traitor stateless is revoked but your personal world, or mine, might come tumbling down if they do come back with their crocodile tears and crocodile hearts.

Maybe a place could be found for all these ISIS women-somewhere like a fucking big camp in the arsehole of no-where. Oh wait, they're already in one. problem solved!

I have read about half the thread so far. To people saying ‘I wouldn’t let her back in’ on what basis are the British government able to refuse her entry? I mean it’s not about personal choice. It’s about international law and rights of passage. There’s no point setting out the upsetting details of those killed in 9/11 or the Manchester Arena (funnily enough I was at the concert but nowhere near the explosion). It’s not about some Daily Mail ‘just tell her we aren’t having her back’ posturing. There is a legal process to be followed.

If she arrives at a UK port and we refuse entry she ends up going backwards and forwards as no other state is obliged to take her (because she’s british) until eventually we have to give in.

I fully endorse that no British civil servant should be endangered through trying to access her where she is. I believe that on any return to the uk she should be investigated and, where appropriate, considered for prosecution.

given that we struggle to export non welcome residents, I am positive we can equally struggle to bring them back,.

nice name she picked for the baby. Little warlord, or similar.

Let her go backwards and forwards-a life on the ocean wave-bill her next of kin for each journey.

We don't have to 'give in' at all. What will be the consequences? A telling off. Revoke her passport and that's the end of it and that should have been done as soon as she put her sorry arse on that plane.

The world won't collapse if this law about not being able to make a traitor stateless is revoked

No, but it'll get pretty bloody unpleasant. Any country would be able to offload its problems on, say, Britain by granting passports and then revoking them.

Yes exactly. If Nigel down the road runs off to join ISIS he can bugger off as well

Lol a bit of XTC playing in the background as he goes

It's not just law, it's international treaty.

I suppose we couid exit from our treaty obligations, , but I don't know how that wouid be done. Anyone?

But if that happened, Britain could just bundle them up onto a prison ship for example and let them sail on-or even under-the seven seas. It could put them in a rowing boat. Who cares!

We simply don't have to wring our hands and say, 'it's the law'. Why should we always be the country left holding the parcel, especially when that parcel contains a turd.

Ffs, some people are being obtuse on purpose. Yes, WHAT was her life like in Bethnal Green? In her home? She was obviously lacking something, so that Syria; (a war torn country) seemed more enticing to her than her own home. What was she offered?

Honestly, the girl is so brainwashed it’s terrifying watching that interview. The media have made it into a circus.

Yes we have a legal duty to accept this piece of shit if it turns up at a British Embassy which hopefuly won't happen. If the Turks do a proper job.

We just need to make sure that in this particular circus, we don't end up being the clowns!

Her partner, the people who introduced her to her partner are all abusive!! Who the hell marries a 15 year old?!

The footballer who had sex with the 15 year old: in PRISON because he groomed and had sex with her.

I’m not even going to bother trying to type this out over and over again.
It’s obvious why this story has been released now. Trying to cover up the shit storm of Brexit and unite Britons against evil.

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What the fuck has any of that got to do with anything in your rant.

Heavens above!

The narrative re- shaping her as a victim began her as a poor motherless child. Then it presented her as being a victim of grooming and now she was sexually abused, with a soupcon of life in Bethnal green being so awful, she felt she had to flee to ISIS!

This re-writing of history has actually happened bit by bit before our eyes on this very thread.

Appalling behaviour by those who are either fluffy of brain or acting with a less than savoury agenda.

She is not a victim and

She is not a victim, She is a piece of shite, who will bring down trouble.

Yes!! She was sexually abused! She was fricking 15 years old. 🤦‍♀️

Maybe she waited until she was 16!

How do you know the exact age that she shagged her murderous husband? Were you there?

FFS.

I really hope she's not allowed to come back. Manchester was retaliation? Scumbags targeting little girls, how low can you go.

I think she will be allowed re entery, though I hope I'm wrong.

saturdaynext Well i’m sorry but my explanation does work. I was objecting to the ridiculous claims that this isis girl wouldn’t be so hated if she was white. I thought of another evil person who had been indoctrinated who happened to be white. She was equally hated. I think she was a perfect example to make my point. But if you’re saying i’ve chosen someone who was TOO evil, there’s plenty more white women to choose from. Do you want a list?

Can people not just get it, there are absolute terrorists who would happily and gleefully kill you all. Groomed my arse, imagine a victim of grooming being shown videos of the outcome of their choices. That person absolutely gave up and indeed joined and enjoyed seeing the outcome of her choices. This belief that she was a victim is risable. Like some people given the chance ,( 5% of the population according to stats) she willingly deemed it right to partake by the fact of her joining Is is, in acts of utter inhumanity. She deserves to be out among the Kurds and Yezides, let them decide. Let the people who survived after mass rape, death of all their men and still in refugee camps decide.