To wonder how we CAN even consider not bringing the girl back from Syria?

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Do we not legally have to? We can't just wipe our hands of her, can we?

I've seen petition after petition on my Facebook feed about not allowing her back, sign the petition, etc etc.

But if she's a British citizen, does she not have every legal right to be here, even if she is vile and dangerous?

I did see someone mention she would have to get here on her own steam, but isn't there a big part in the British passport (I know she hasn't got one but she was entitled and is technically British), that says something along the lines of Her Majesty grants assistance and protection as needed?

Without her baby even coming into the argument, she alone regardless is allowed back here, vulnerable with a newborn or not.

You only have to see the headlines today regarding the discovery of heads from sex slaves found in the ISIS last standing region, to know that we should never let someone back into this country who holds such barbaric ideologies. Her behaviour during interviews is like looking into some dark empty pit - no emotion. Nothing.

Apparently he splits his time between the two countries.

Hmm, I wonder if he has dual nationality? If he has then maybe she also does after all.

Hmm, I wonder if he has dual nationality? If he has then maybe she also does after all.

I think that both the parents have dual nationality.

I think that both the parents have dual nationality.

In that case she surely must be eligible for dual nationality until she is 21 (I think it's 21 under Bangladeshi law).

She is as she is under 21 and I think the Bangladeshi nationality flows from the mother not the father under those laws there.

I thought Bangladesh doesn't allow dual nationality after age 21? I'm sure I read that upthread. You're OK until yo get to that age, but if you don't do anything about it and have grown up as a dual nat, then your Bangladeshi nat automatically goes. SB is OK a she's only 19, and had had dual nat until UK decided she didn't. JJ's claim to Bangladeshi nat has automatically lapsed and he's been all ours since he was 21. Unless of course he went for the Bangladeshi option when he still could.

I was talking about this with a Daily Mail reading, racist elderly relative today and they think she should be allowed back - I couldn't quite believe what I was hearing

jux, If a parent is born in Bangladesh, they have Bangladeshi citizenship by birth. Their children automatically receive Bangladeshi citizenship by descent. They retain that until the age of 21, they can continue to have dual nationality after that if they register for it, otherwise it expires on their 21st birthday. Bangladeshi citizens by descent do not automatically pass Bangladeshi citizenship onto their children either.

SBs father and mother are both Bangladeshi citizens by birth. Which means Shamima is automatically a Bangladeshi citizen by descent.

Whether or not her parents hold dual nationality is a bit of a moot point. As long as she’s not left stateless we have the right to strip her of UK nationality if she is a threat. She’s not stateless because she has Bangladeshi citizenship so the removal of UK citizenship is legal. It doesn’t matter if her parents have dual nationality with the UK or not, now it’s stripped, that’s irrelevant, it gives her no entitlement to be here.

brizzle, there’s an argument it’s safer to have them here and prosecuted (that’s what Donald Trump wants). I’m not sure it would. I think them being dispersed to many less developed countries would probably make them much of a lower threat than several of them coming back to European capitals at the same time, organising and speaking to the press.

Shamima has particularly convinced me of that because her initial intent was obviously to come back her and sow as much division and create as much hate and fear as she possibly could between different groups here. I’m glad that’s been stopped.

I should have added my DMail reading racist relative wants them back on compassionate grounds. Most unlikely.

Well Shamima has now given an interview saying that she is really very sorry, regrets everything about being in ISIS and wants to come back to the UK and help stop other young women being radicalised.

It’s all bullshit. When she thought we’d be forced to have her back, she was still right into ISIS, had a great time there. Didn’t regret a thing. Saying whatever she could to sow fear and distrust. Deliberately offending and trying to create division.

Now she’s lost her citizenship it’s all ‘Ah. About that ISIS stuff. Well I really think it was all a bit of a mistake now. I’m dreadfully sorry about all that. Is it possible you could give me a visa’?

Hang on, I'll get my violin.

She must think we're really stupid!!

This really is a case where we should leave it those in the know. I don't trust any of her statements, whether they are showing remorse, or no remorse, as we don't know what her situation in the camp is like. I think we should suspend judgement here.

I'll suspend judgement if she agrees to let her baby go home without her.

@OP

you got the title of the thread wrong. You included a "not" by mistake. It should have been

"To wonder how we CAN even consider bringing the girl back from Syria? "

And we don't want little "warlord" either.