@Asta19
It’s been said before, MN is not a hive mind. I don’t know why people find it so distasteful when some of us say yes actually we would be more impressed by a man who paid. We are allowed to feel that way.
The same way some men would want to split the bill, some wouldn’t.
I won’t be told what I “should” be doing as a woman in 2019! I am my own person. And no i’m not convinced that women do have it better nowadays. Women have been able to have careers for many years now.
Only now women can’t do anything right. If they choose to be a SAHM, they’re considered to be “sponging” off another person, worse still if they become a single parent (often through no fault of their own). Yet if they work then they aren’t being a good mother.
All of this. 100%!
Also, I agree with @formerbabe ... Some posters on here are making out we are living in some 'feminist utopia.' We're not. And there is no such thing. And as has been said, many men will cherry pick the parts of equality that suits their agenda.
Many men who want to split the bill on a date want to do it to save money, NOT because they care about 'equality!' As formerbabe (and a few other posters) said, many men are quite happy to let their partner/wife do the lion's share of the housework and childcare, (often when she works too!)
People are living in cloud cuckoo land if they think most men give a shit about 'equality' and doing an equal amount around the house, and sharing childcare. Most men, if they can get away with it, will swerve domestic chores (and childcare duties.)
I am sure the Utopian few on here will come out with a few charming little tales though, of how the men in THEIR life are just wonderful, they go to feminist rallies with them, and they always share every household task and split the child care down the middle 50-50.
Yeah, that really happens in soooooooo many families! 🙄
Me personally, whilst I don't think it's fair that a man should pay on every date, I certainly think he should pay on the first, if he has asked the woman. (Which is often the case!) If a man asked me on a date and got a pocket calculator out and got us to pay for our own stuff (that we had consumed in the restaurant,) right down to the last penny; I would happily do so, but it would be the first date AND the last.
Couldn't be less romantic, and more of a turn-off. In my experience (and that of many women I know,) a man who starts penny pinching on the first date, is not going to be a generous, giving, loving partner who will support you through thick and thin. I would certainly not be marrying a man like this, and I would not EVER have children with him.
Don't give a fuck what ANYone thinks about this, or what you think about me. As a pp said, everyone is entitled to their own opinions and views, whether the radfems on here like it or not.
You can as sniffy and offended as you like that some women like a man to pay on a first date, and pour scorn on them for having the audacity to think differently to you, but it doesn't change the fact that others are allowed to think differently to you without being attacked, berated, and ridiculed.
Funnily enough, I have never HAD a man expect me to pay on a first date, and they always insist on paying. Maybe I have always attracted a better type of man than some posters on here. 