To call out this "vegan"?

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I'm not actually going to! I know it would be so petty. But it's SO tempting.
She posts loads on social media - videos of cruelty on dairy farms and very self-righteous statements about how everyone needs to stop killing babies, why don't you care you are killing the planet?! What are YOU doing to stop cruelty? When are you going to wake up? Etc.
She was stood alone in the kitchen at a BBQ last summer at a mutual friends house and I walked in and she looked like a rabbit in the headlights. I didn't realise why as I don't care what people eat so I didn't notice but then she said "oh you've caught me being naughty and having some haloumi!"
Fast forward months of more self richeous and aggressive posts.
Then the other day she posted on Instagram a picture of her eating a chocolate mousse. I commented "looks lovely -what is it?" She says "it was! Galaxy chocolate mousse".
And I soooo wanted to say "oh wow I didn't realise galaxy chocolate mousse was vegan!"

Anyone who is attempting to embark upon veganism has to use the word because otherwise it is so easy for hidden ingredients such as butter/eggs/cows milk to be used. That is why the word is used, rather than to be judged

But isn't that just rationalising? Surely, if someone's merely "attempting" veganism - which IME is often the hallmark of those seized by a passing fad - it's hardly the end of the world if a bit of animal produce creeps in?

We have, of course, the absolutely right to choose what we put in our mouths, but why not simply say "I'd like the vegan options"?

It just concerns me that it was 'last summer.' Why have you waited til now? You need to call her out much sooner than 6 months later, otherwise you're going to end up looking silly and spiteful. (Coz you held onto it for half a year IYSWIM.)

But apart from that, yeah definitely call her out next time you catch her 'cheating.'

Vegans are mildly annoying.. But FAKE vegans are utter twats.

I know a supposed ‘vegan’ who loads up on cheese and milk. Then eats a steak dinner once a year as a ‘treat’.

Just ignore OP

I really would have sent the ‘oh I didn’t realise galaxy was vegan’ comment but then I do petty shit like that a lot .

She isn’t a vegan. The vegans I know would rather pull their teeth out one by one without pain relief than go near dairy.

I'm late to this party but probably wouod have called her out if she is always posting about it on social media.

I've been tempted to point out to a few of my vegan friends that their leather car seats, wool jumpers, sheepskin shoes....are not vegan.

Why cremeeggs? What would that achieve? Except to make you feel smug.

As I said upthread I have a leather bag that I owned before I became vegan. My primary reason for going vegan was environmental though animal rights are also a consideration. I feel I would be hypocritical to add to landfill by throwing my bag away, and that the right thing from my point of view to do is to keep the bag until it is no longer usable. Should I throw it away just so I look more like a vegan to someone like you?

I like vegans but I can't eat a whole one, there too bitter 😂

I call myself a flexatarian. I try very hard not to eat or wear animal products and to watch food air miles etc.
What really annoys me are people who make a big issue out ofv being catered for (separate utensils, meals etc) but then fancy a bacon sandwich etc and eat it.

Given that tap water is not vegan on account of the adsorption filters used to remove organics being made from ‘activated carbon’ which can be animal bone based, not to mention the fish monitors which literally use fish as water quality monitors it is unfair to expect anyone to live up to the term vegan and you should just let her be.

I'd want to call her out too. I have a good friend who recently went vegan, and I am respectful, make a point of going to restaurants she can find meals, and generally don't make a big deal of it. She informed today they all non vegans are terrible people. to which I replied, 'ermm, riiiiiiight... Even this one?' Apparently so. Because I eat meat. I won't be so accommodating next time we go out to eat. This behaviour is why a lot of non vegan people get irritated with vegans. It's also why I've unfollowed a lot of people on social media

Wouldn’t bother tbh, yes it’s annoying - it’s annoying both ways as it undermines people’s understanding of what vegans eat, and it’s annoying to be preached at by someone who isn’t following their own advice. For several reasons it’s good to eat less meat - so I’d let it slide as it stands.

I eat meat, fish, cheeses etc but I actually know a lot of delicious vegan recipes. If you are going to embark on this life style, out of moral choice or whatever the reason, then you should educate yourself about suitable ingredients and how to make this a sustainable way to live. A lot of people love chocolate, especially a creamy type of mousse. You can easily make a really yummy vegan version out of pure cocoa and avocado with sugar. I’ve had people compare both a traditional chocolate mousse and my version and found mine richer and better tasting. You can also make different types of ‘cheeses’ with nuts etc. I personally would never give up my Brie and Camembert etc but why cheat if you choose this form of diet!

I know someone who boasted about being vegan - and then paid extra for extra helpings of black pudding on a Full English breakfast that had double helpings of bacon, sausages and eggs and real butter for the toast - oh and the milk in tea

Yabu. She’s trying to do her bit and slips up every now and again. People take veganism really badly, as highlighted by some of this thread. Yes, perhaps she shouldn’t be over the top preachy but if it means I’m reminded to eat and shop more ethically I personally don’t mind being preached at every now and again.

Sanctimonious and hypocritical. She sounds delightful.

If I were a real vegan, I would suggest that if she isn’t going to practice what she preaches, she needs to stop preaching.

it is the preachy bit that annoys

if you preach chastity and get caught having an affair it is not the same as Joe Bloggs sleeping with his girlfriend

if you preach honesty in all things and get done for fraud it is not the same as someone forgetting to tell benefit office they got £4 for babysitting
if you preach veganism day in and day out you can't be surprised if you get crititised for eating cheese burgers, it is not the same as the trying to be vegan person having cheese occasionally

You have anger issues. Live and leg live. Who gives a sh*t.

I have no problem whatsoever with people wanting to call themselves vegan while not really being one of they don't bang on about it.

But when they start going on and on about how non vegans are sponsoring death, as the 'vegan' is in the op, then they do lose the moral high ground rather spectacularly.

I had a work friend who was always comparing a dog Vs a pig and why do we eat one not the other etc. And she was always surprised at how much i profess to love animals (have many stories about saving birds and squirrels and mice etc) yet ate them, and how I used to do things to raise money for my local animal rescue. I was puzzled because it was like it would be better if I stopped helping them.

Call her out. I'd do it sarcastically. "I didn't know Galaxy Mousse was vegan!" On her instagram pic should do it. I hate these preachy vegans too. Those protesters in Nottingham are the perfect example. If they really had the courage of their convictions so to speak they'd protest bare faced. They protested outside Jamie Oliver's restaurant here and never in my life have I ever wanted to eat a beef burger but I wanted to walk past them eating one and I'm vegetarian ! When the restaurant shut they were all saying they got all caring about the staff who lost their jobs! Hypocrites...! I never ever preach to anyone. It's my personal choice.
Call her out on it for sure.
If I'd had a friend like that I would have picked up a burger at that barbecue and made mooing noises and thrown it at her.

I cannot see how the new word ‘flexitarian’ is any different from omnivore. We have evolved to be able to digest plant based foods, meat/fish and dairy. To eat a mix of the three with plant based foods predominating is a natural balanced diet. It doesn’t need defining with a special word.

I have no problem with people eating what they like. It’s a first world privilege that I am very grateful for. My DS has been a strict veggie for 20 years so to make family cooking simple we eat a lot of non-meat meals and the rest of us eat small amounts of fish/meat at around 3 or 4 meals a week. That does not make us mostly vegetarian or flexitarian. It’s just normal eating.

i agree op nothing wrong people can eat what they want

but dont pr4each to me about the poor animals and the state of the planet and eat a cheesburger whilst you do it

ugh, I work with a woman like this. She got really upset once because I offered her a sweet without thinking (it was a chewit, not something obvious like chocolate or haribo) and made this whole fuss about me trying to trick her into eating non-vegan food - i genuinely wasn't, i just didn't think. Happily puts honey in her herbal tea though.

I have vegan friends, there's nothing wrong with following any diet you want, but the difference is my friends aren't preachy, you'll only see it on FB if they are asking for recommendations for a product or they've found something exciting generally in Aldi's wine section if one of them slipped up I wouldn't judge at all (mostly because I have no will power and my attempts to diet last less than a week). If they were preachy vegans I would call them out because preaching about anything annoys me.

I would have said it. I have when people put things like this or similar post bragging about whatever.

Virtue signalling is annoying. If she meant galaxy I can only find the mousse chocolate cake ingredients online. This contains beef gelatine.

I'm currently calling myself "mostly vegan". I've been a pescatarian for about five years, although eating very little fish, so I guess "mostly vegetarian". I described myself as mostly vegetarian with some fish, because I hate the word pescatarian and it made me feel like a right knob when I said it.

A couple of years ago a friend who I'm very fond of went vegan. He doesn't talk about it much at all, generally only if someone asks him about it or wants to know more about it. He doesn't preach.

This year I decided I wanted to go far more vegan and to do a complete vegan diet for Lent. (not a practising Christian, but being brought up a Catholic I've maintained lent as my time of year to do something good for me). What has happened is that my diet has been mainly vegan since the beginning of the year. I tried to buy burger buns that had no dairy products in them - I've liked the Brioche ones for a while, but they were out - and found that the normal ones also had some dairy product in them which pissed me off a bit and I'm going to give making my own a go. So Brioche burger buns (if the bun is going to contain dairy then might as well have something really tasty!) and some dark chocolate that I thought was milk free and wasn't. Apart from that I've been vegan most days. No milk, no cheese, no eggs and obviously no meat or fish. Meat is easy for me, I've become repulsed by it, which is me and not me judging people who eat it because what other people eat or don't eat is none of my business.

I think there will probably always be times when I'll slip up on my food diet, and I already have leather footwear that I have no intention of getting rid of because replacing them with vegan footwear would be out of my price range. I've been using vegan makeup for a while too.

I feel really, really good about it. I also feel grateful that there are more vegan products available in supermarkets because when I want a ready meal I can find one. Oh and Iceland's No Bull/Chicken/Pork/Cheese range is bloody fabulous! I'm talking about it here because of the thread. I might mention it on Facebook when I'm further along, but just because it is making me happy, not to boast or preach, because who needs that shit.

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I cannot bear photos of animal cruelty and will turn away from any that are posted and have had to unfriend people who have a habit of posting them. I'm not sure what good they do. A bit like stop smoking ads that show awful shit about smoking. We all know those things and if we continue to smoke/eat meat, that's up to us and when I did smoke I just laughed at the preachy stuff because it treats people as idiots who don't know the harm they do themselves, etc.

I'm a happy mostly vegan and I'm really happy that so many people are looking to reduce their meat eating and dairy intake and seeing that plant based meals can be properly delicious. It's good for everyone. The thing I'm missing is eggs, but when I buy them, I can get them from a local shop - actually a beauty shop -who get them from a local smallholding and never have more than a few boxes of eggs because we get what the chickens have laid and enjoy them more knowing where they come from and how the chickens are treated.

Back to outing the friend. As others have said she's outed herself with the Galaxy mousse, but I would talk to her and ask her to stop being such a preaching zealot given that she isn't perfect and that her posts will put other people off and only add to the notion that all vegans are preachy fucks who think they're better than anyone else and hugely boring. So, not so much out her as have a nice little word to her about it. If she continues as before, then out her.