To call out this "vegan"?

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I'm not actually going to! I know it would be so petty. But it's SO tempting.
She posts loads on social media - videos of cruelty on dairy farms and very self-righteous statements about how everyone needs to stop killing babies, why don't you care you are killing the planet?! What are YOU doing to stop cruelty? When are you going to wake up? Etc.
She was stood alone in the kitchen at a BBQ last summer at a mutual friends house and I walked in and she looked like a rabbit in the headlights. I didn't realise why as I don't care what people eat so I didn't notice but then she said "oh you've caught me being naughty and having some haloumi!"
Fast forward months of more self richeous and aggressive posts.
Then the other day she posted on Instagram a picture of her eating a chocolate mousse. I commented "looks lovely -what is it?" She says "it was! Galaxy chocolate mousse".
And I soooo wanted to say "oh wow I didn't realise galaxy chocolate mousse was vegan!"

Ah I wouldn't bother op, most vegans know they are hypocrites anyway - posting endless FB posts about paying for animal slaughter from their tablets, pcs, phones, and telling us to watch shows about veganism on Netflix they have seen on their TVs that have guess what? Components made with the help of animal products

Go figure!

@TalkinPeece definitely feasts and celebrations are more likely to be recorded and show what they do eat rather than don't eat on a day to day basis. But @7salmonswimming Is perfectly entitled to her beliefs. I am sure she hasn't plucked them out of thin air.

I agree, it does seem like a first world problem, but also a valid one in response to a massive consumer issue. It is a movement gaining more movement, markets are responding and it can only bring good (increased animal welfare, more awareness of our consumption, manufacturers responding accordingly).

@Meandmetoo the thing is, markets are just not designed for 100% ethical living.

Since when was it entirely the consumers fault that manufacturers cut corners due to cost and mass production?

I just can't call people who are trying to make a change, hypocritical because they are not living 'the good life' and an Amish lifestyle. That's just not feasible.

I probably would call her out. I’m vegetarian and people who eat with me know that. Other people may not realise it, it’s not relevant to most people. Banging on about how great your lifestyle choice is (whatever that choice is) gets very tedious!

For goodness sake - some people are just trying to do the best they can with the world the way it is. I call myself a vegan. I had a slip up for one day a few months ago. Straight back on it now. If someone tries to eat a vegan diet, then yes, they will use vegan to describe themselves as them people can quickly understand what you can and can’t eat.

I became vegan primarily for environmental reasons. I now won’t buy any non vegan clothes or cosmetics. However I refuse to add to landfill by throwing away stuff I already own. So sometimes you will see me with a leather bag, ordering vegan food and calling myself a vegan. Should I throw my bag away and add to decomposing landfill just so I don’t look bad to people who don’t know me?

Block her on SM if she is annoying you. Don't bother engaging, it will only cause you hassle that isn't worth it.

Important the reason they are hypocrites (and I'm not saying that as an insult, we are all hypocrites in one way or another) is they say people don't need meat etc, people don't need tablets, pcs, TVs etc either.

Calling the vegans who say people are paying for animal abuse and complicit in it etc etc hypocrites is factually correct, as they do the same.

@Meandmetoo , we shall have to disagree

The irony of justifying the consumption of meat by arguing that people should 'live and let live', despite the fact that your actions are directly contributing to death

YANBU.
My ex, loud vegan, eats chicken from my sons plate.

He’s a CUNT

Fair enough! But it is a fact, an uncomfortable one for sure, that vegans who say non vegans are paying for death are doing exactly the same. It's just more palatable to think there's no choice.

your actions are directly contributing to death

Death wasn't invented by meat eaters. It's a fact of life that will come sooner or later to all living beings.

Plants also die.

I know it's not quite the same but I've a Facebook friend who is very vocal about hating Greyhound racing. She goes on and on about them being exploited for humans entertainment etc. Then she goes on holiday and posts photos of her son riding a seaside donkey, and then going to see a Sealion show, where the Sealion lives in a tiny pool and is made to perform. i.e, being exploited for humans entertainment

If veganism is so much better for the environment, why do they import so much of the foods?
Almonds and coconuts for 'milk' isn't grown in the UK.

Meat eater eat a lot of imported food too - have you ever looked at where all your meat comes from? Unfortunately buying locally sourced food can be very difficult depending on where you live!

When I say environmental reasons, it’s not just food miles taken into account. It’s the amount of land use for livestock, water use, use of crops for livestock feed. Look into the stats - eating meat has a huge environmental impact compared to a plant based diet

I've got a friend whose vegan and shares awful videos of animal cruelty and how we are horrible for eating meat and dairy etc but drives around in a massive leather interior mercedes !! She doesn't see the hypocrisy at all !

I have a dear friend who is vegan apart from Stilton cheese
I love her the more for her honesty that she just adores Stilton

I have a family member who preaches about veganism on social media. She's not a vegan. She eats eggs, halloumi, goats cheese. She ate Bolognese, and lamb chops and that's just what I've seen her eat. In fact I don't think I've ever seen her eat a full vegan meal! It's bloody annoying because it's clearly just a front for her friends.

If that's aimed at me Hipho I don't eat meat. I'm a vege not vegan and tend to eat very simply. Other than coffee I don't consume much that couldn't be grown locally.

I've got a friend whose vegan and shares awful videos of animal cruelty and how we are horrible for eating meat and dairy etc but drives around in a massive leather interior mercedes !! She doesn't see the hypocrisy at all

^^

You can't argue with stupid, let's face it.

Leave her alone, it’s not like you caught her tearing into raw venison! And unfollow her on social media if she’s that much of a bother.

I have no objection to people eating meat. I'd prefer if they ate ethically grown meat occasionally not several times a day.
Much of the British countryside is not particularly suitable for growing plants but ideal for sheep and beef.

I agree @MikeUniformMike . I always try to buy local. That said, even the labels for local meat are misleading. Animals are often not raised where they are killed. They can be brought in and then grazed for a month before legally being classed as 'local'.

Labels are misleading. Sadly, very few things are truely local. And everything comes down to cost/finances.