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To call out this "vegan"?

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user1486250399 · 13/02/2019 14:35

I'm not actually going to! I know it would be so petty. But it's SO tempting.
She posts loads on social media - videos of cruelty on dairy farms and very self-righteous statements about how everyone needs to stop killing babies, why don't you care you are killing the planet?! What are YOU doing to stop cruelty? When are you going to wake up? Etc.
She was stood alone in the kitchen at a BBQ last summer at a mutual friends house and I walked in and she looked like a rabbit in the headlights. I didn't realise why as I don't care what people eat so I didn't notice but then she said "oh you've caught me being naughty and having some haloumi!"
Fast forward months of more self richeous and aggressive posts.
Then the other day she posted on Instagram a picture of her eating a chocolate mousse. I commented "looks lovely -what is it?" She says "it was! Galaxy chocolate mousse".
And I soooo wanted to say "oh wow I didn't realise galaxy chocolate mousse was vegan!"

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importantkath · 13/02/2019 16:39

I know quite a lot of dedicated vegans but only one who is all preachy. We are not Facebook friends because I can't bear preachy people, whatever the subject. Let's be honest, it's just about what you are having for dinner. It's not a big deal.

I think movements like meat free Monday and Veganuary are great. I do think that everyone could eat less meat. That doesn't mean you need to throw away everything animal based in our house, like your shoes and your jacket. It's about reducing animal exploitation for me. As reducing your plastic usage, you don't throw it all out, but you are conscious about your future purchases. As with religions; there are extremes and varying interpretations.

Personally, I eat a plant based diet as I don't enjoy meat anymore and I feel guilty about dairy trade. It's my choice, my family don't share my feelings and I don't make a fuss if going out or going somewhere for dinner beyond asking what options are available. My mother just cannot cope and flaps so I leave her to it and eat what I am given.

As tempting as it is, I could never bring someone down for trying to live the best life they can or for doing something that they feel is good. No one is perfect. Why time and headspace on all that gloating? Seems like waste of energy to me.

I have attached a photo from one of my cookbooks, so vegan in 5. I felt this was a really good approach.

To call out this "vegan"?
bunhead34 · 13/02/2019 16:41

I am vegan. And I think you should call her out!
It really annoys me when people say they are vegan but the next minute they're chomping on a box of celebrations (actually happened!)

I think it's great if people are reducing meat/trying to eat more vegan etc, every little helps. but if she isn't even vegan she shouldn't be making a huge deal and preaching about it. (And making people think that all vegans are preachy and annoying like this) 🥕 were not! Smile

Juells · 13/02/2019 16:43

At least halloumi is a vegetarian cheese.

Magnum make vegan choc ices, in case anyone wants to know, and they're very good.

7salmonswimming · 13/02/2019 16:45

It’s like that meme comparing Princess Charlotte learning 2 languages aged 3, to every single immigrant child everywhere in the world.

Entire cultures all around the world have been ‘vegan’ for millennia, not counting those for whom famine and poverty leave no choice.

What the #vegan types really want to say is #morewokethanyou

Which is fine. They should just say that, because 99% of the time it’s probably true (good god) and it handily labels them as the twats they are.

Gone4Good · 13/02/2019 16:46

I'm a vegetarian and a few years ago I was having lunch with several people one of whom was bragging about being a vegan. She ordered a crab salad. I never said anything but this other lady said, "I didn't know crabs were vegetables".

winsinbin · 13/02/2019 16:46

People like this piss me off. My DS has been a full on veggie for over 20 years. I have lost count of the number of times he has been offered (and occasionally served) chicken/ham/fish because so many people who claim to be vegetarian actually mean they don’t eat red meat. When he was younger family members used to take him out and urge him ‘go on, have a hamburger it’s ok, we’ll keep it a secret’ which upset him as he had made his own choice not to eat animals but felt rude rejecting what they thought was a treat.

People should use the correct terms for their dietary choices. If the truth is ‘I don’t eat much meat’ or ‘I eat mostly vegan’ then say that instead of pretending to be something you’re not.

Also currently annoyed that at a big family get together recently one person contacted me especially to say she no longer ate red meat. I was doing a traditional roast beef lunch but also cooked turkey to accommodate her. When she sat down she said ‘ooh, I can’t resist the look of that beef’ and ate a massive portion. DH and I had to have turkey after that so there was enough beef for everyone else and also ate turkey sandwiches for a few days after.

DerelictWreck · 13/02/2019 16:49

Galaxy don't make or sell chocolate mousse, it must have been a homemade not vegan one! Even weirder

LuckyLou7 · 13/02/2019 16:49

DH has a couple of friends who claim to be vegan, and are very preachy about it - but both wear leather shoes. When I asked how that worked, they muttered something about how shoes made from alternative materials aren't comfortable or hard-wearing.

TildaTurnip · 13/02/2019 16:51

Because vegans tend to be very preachy and "holier than thou" and condemning of non-vegans

Yes I agree with you about the sweeping generalisation bit. I have friends who are passionate about all sorts but I never see them as ‘preachy’. I think there is a vocal minority that could be perceived as preachy but they’re the ones you’re hearing and focusing on. You must therefore be assuming every other vegan quietly eating their tofurky sandwich just trying to do what’s morally right by their compass, is the same.

SleepingStandingUp · 13/02/2019 16:51

Def would have gone with fake surprised "oh wow, I didn't know Galaxy did vegan. That's very progressive of them!"

Wedgiecar58 · 13/02/2019 16:52

I know soooo many vegans that were doing this self-righteous posting, shaming us non-vegans constantly.

I would say more than half of them 1 year later are back to eating animal products.

One particular poster wore cashmere whilst posting her shaming rants and videos, I found it so hard to bite my tongue.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/02/2019 16:52

It's tempting, but TBH I wouldn't say anything at all. Unlike committed, principled vegans, some are just attention seeking on the back of what's become the current silly fad - give it a few months and they'll have moved onto the next "thing"

Best to ignore it really, since any attention just offers her a chance for more silly spouting

WorraLiberty · 13/02/2019 16:53

This just does not make any sense.

She posts loads on social media about being a vegan and when she puts up a pic of her eating a Galaxy chocolate mousse, not one single person points out it's not vegan?

Really? Confused

Gone4Good · 13/02/2019 17:06

A friend of mine is like this. I've had to hide her posts on facebook because she shares really upsetting images of animal abuse and even in person she is really preachy about "knowing too much to ever go back"

I've been a vegetarian since 1974. I had to put something on my FB to point out real animal lovers are traumatized by the photos of abuse, slaughter etc. I almost quit FB because of the images being posted by my dearest oldest friend. She stopped posting them but continues to post pictures of her delicious Sunday roasts etc. She is not a vegetarian obviously, just a virtue signaling animal lover.

LaurieFairyCake · 13/02/2019 17:06

You're either vegan or not

Only really militant vegans think like this. Confused

Personally I think it's great when people try to eat more plant based food.

I've managed to give up (dairy) milk this year in favour of oat. I'm pretty bloody chuffed there's finally an alternative I really like.

I eat vegan or vegetarian about 30 days a month. There's nothing wrong with being 'almost vegan'.

KrazyKatlady · 13/02/2019 17:06

I know someone like this. We all got loads of lecture about animal cruelty and implored to watch youtube films about the dairy industry etc. Other friends are expected to provide almond milk for her tea etc , and then in the same evening, the cadburys heroes or (homemade, non vegan) cakes are handed round and she's helping herself.
I would be fine with this if she said I try to eat vegan whenever I possibly can but if I am at someones home, its not always practical, but to be quite preachy and then eat blatantly non vegan stuff irritates me.

elfycat · 13/02/2019 17:07

Yesterday a friend's BF started pontificating about veganism, apparently he's just become vegan. Very 'health', 'environment', 'animal cruelty' etc but only the stuff you get on social media, and with no idea of where he is supposed to get essential nutrients from. I gave him a few heads up on problematic vitB family issues and what to look at.

Only I'd just seen him eat bacon, eggs and cheese less than 5 minutes before. twat. He tried doing the same lecture to us today without half a pig digesting in his stomach and I told him that after yesterday he could give it 6 months before I could be arsed to listen to him.

Juells · 13/02/2019 17:11

I almost quit FB because of the images being posted by my dearest oldest friend.

A friend is very involved in an animal charity, and I kicked up so much about the images being posted on the fb page that I finally got through to them that it doesn't encourage people to donate, it makes them unfollow the page with the distressing images. Since then they only post photos of the rescued animals.

TalkinPeece · 13/02/2019 17:11

Entire cultures all around the world have been ‘vegan’ for millennia
Link please

7salmonswimming · 13/02/2019 17:18

Entire cultures all around the world have been ‘vegan’ for millennia
Link please

Shock

Look it up yourself! Bloody cheek.

TalkinPeece · 13/02/2019 17:23

salmon
Look it up yourself! Bloody cheek.
I tried to. Hence why I asked.
Link please.

LoadOfUtterBoswellocks · 13/02/2019 17:29

I eat vegan or vegetarian about 30 days a month. There's nothing wrong with being 'almost vegan'.

Absolutely not, no. But no-one's saying it is wrong. What people object to is someone announcing they are vegan and then not being vegan. You might as well announce you're celibate and then go on the pull. Nothing wrong with going out on the pull, but it means you can't use that particular label.

LoadOfUtterBoswellocks · 13/02/2019 17:30

Here's one link:
www.petaindia.com/blog/himalayan-tribe-vegan-5000-years/

LoadOfUtterBoswellocks · 13/02/2019 17:31

Soz, that link didn't work.

Buddhists?

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