To think a Marxist society would be an improvement

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Lots of people are so anti corbyn but there are many forms of Marxism and many could be far better than the system we have now imo.

Obviously corbyn isn't looking to replicate venezuela, that's been horrendously managed for a long time and was always going to end badly

I don’t think you know what you agree with or why you might agree with it. Typical self-styled ‘socialist’.

Because its like arguing abut ocean currents with a flat earther. Its a historical fact...

Because you used a scientific analogy. Single quote marks don’t usually indcate direct quotes. 🙄

Thats exactly what single quotation marks can be used for.

And again I have no idea why you're going on about these things. Though you seem to be suggesting historical facts dont exist? we should just all be guessing what happened in history from what people caled themselves instead? I know we live in an era in which conservatives think their tabloid crap informed opinion is equal to facts, but it isnt.

Nearly all isms are brilliant. But they fail to reflect human nature. People are more complex than any one ism can explain or predict.

Marxism, IMHO, is no better than Catholicism, Capitalism or any other ism.

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I think something is going to have to replace Capitalism otherwise something cataclysmic will happen.

I don’t know what that is, but it’s not socialism which hasn’t responded well to the challenge of a modern, connected society and is in thrall to globalism, identity and grievance politics which are the biggest game of divide and conquer ever.

The middle classes are disappearing in the developed west as we become societies purely of the rich and poor. All the world’s wealth is travelling upwards from the poorest to the richest.

What has usually solved these wealth inequalities before has been a massive fuck off war, which I wouldn’t like to happen but seems inevitable.

We're not entirely dissimilar to Roman society right now...

The top 10% are obscenely wealthy, the bottom 10% are kept comfortable with benefits (the Romans also had an equally relatively generous form of welfare available to the 'poorest' members of society as they were the most likely to revolt) and it's the working middle classes that are squeezed the most to pay for the tax breaks for the rich and the benefits for the idle.

We're not entirely dissimilar to Roman society right now...

which bit ? The Imperial glory, or the Republic ?

The bit where our great leader fiddles while Rme burns.

Reading some posts in this thread is like listening to 20 year olds who think they have discovered sex and no one else before them ever thought about it or tried it.

The end of the Republic. Politicians dick about stabbing each other and we all wait for the next impending disaster whilst being told how silly and juvenile it is to want to improve society somewhat. Awful populist Caesars popping up, Boris thinks hes Octavian, but he's Lepidus, and Corbyn is Mark Anthony pissing around in Pontus with issues nobody else cares about whilst civil war goes on.

Sounds about right ... Thatcher as Caesar ?

The thing is the Roman empire was not Rome, and pretty much ticked on while all of that was going on. It must have, otherwise the fall of Rome would have been around 0 AD, not four centuries later - by which time there was a backup Rome to switch to ....

Be a great rainy day pub game: Match the politicians to the characters for a new Carry-On film: Carry on Brexit I wonder if we could bring the Comic Strip together for a last hurrah ?

Obviously you'd have
playing Sid James as BoJo
playing Charles Hawtrey as Jacob Rees-Mogg
playing Kenneth Connor as David Davies
playing Robin Wright as Theresa May
playing Alastair Sim as Jeremy Corbyn
playing Barbara Windsor as Nadine Dorries
playing John Goodman as Donald Trump

and so on. So far, I'm winning !

I really, really, really could do with growing up ....

Marvellous game.

The only change I’d make is that Corbyn would be played by Wilfred Bramble in a one-off Carry On role.

Oh no, I’ve done Wilfred down: seems he did appear in a Carry On film.

Oooh, good idea.

There would have to be a place for Kenneth Williams too.

What about Jim Dale?

There must be some gormless young Tory we could cast him as.

Further correction for the late, great Wilfred: his surname was spelt Brambell.

Oh Lordy...and his first name was spelt Wilfrid.

I think that’s all the Wilfrid Brambell homage I can manage.