To think this is so sad

[Charlie97]

Newborn baby found in a park last night, my heart breaks for both mother and baby.

I know I would not wanted to give birth alone (I presume mum was alone) and without pain relief and medical help.

Baby found abandoned in freezing East Ham park

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47083204

There's no excuse for what this person did.end of!

Even if it turns out that she has a serious mental illness, or severe learning difficulties?

How many people would have been out last night in heavy snow

There was no heavy snow in the London area last night.

It was sheer luck she was found

Was it?

Or did the mother choose the place carefully so that the baby would be safe less than 30 mins after being born?

And dfod with you high and mighty “there’s such a thing as the morning after pill”. There are at least 3 possibly more situations on the list on my pp that would make that impossible. Ditto abortion.

I hope you’re a troll.

@Charlie97 why would having 5 children make me more aware of the real world? I'm sorry but I don't live in an area where mothers dump there babies. It's not something that I'm familiar with.

@TacoLover sorry I mousy of missed your posts, so sorry to hear about your story 😢

SaturdayNext

You’re trying to reason with someone who uses “end of” in earnest...

Oh FFS someone who left that baby needs medical attention not spiteful judgment from a glass house

@SmileEachDay really? Past 10 at night in the snow, in a play park?

Poor baby, and poor mother.
I’m currently pregnant myself, and I have sympathy for both. I’ve had pnd bordering on psychosis and it’s hard enough to cope even with specialist help.

I was born and brought up in Newham. Just down the road from where the little baby was left. It’s one of the most deprived boroughs in London with the majority of people living in poverty. It’s highly unlikely to be a 35 year old wealthy woman this has happened to.

@thatsmyspace because you come into more contact with other families? I've experienced things through my children's friends and learnt how things happen. For example, DS1 parents divorced, saw how this had a effect in his friend both first hand and through my son. DS2s mother left the marital home and DF became the sole carer, saw his DSs friend dealt with this? That's how!

I realise that other people have different lives and that's why they act differently to me.

I'm sorry but I don't live in an area where mothers dump there babies. It's not something that I'm familiar with.

Sums you up....not on my doorstep not my problem. You do realise that this type of thing goes on in naice areas too....some of them due to really unsupportive families who don't what that shit on their doorstep!

@SmileEachDay really? Past 10 at night in the snow, in a play park?

Well the baby was found within 30 mins of being born so, err, yes.

Would people care so much if the mother was a 44 year old crack addict prostitute?

Yes what a horrible existence that nobody deserves. That sounds like someone in crisis. Some people just really lack emotional intelligence.
What a horrible horrible situation. That poor baby left in the cold and that poor woman who felt this was her only option. Very sad.

@SmileEachDay
is a play park after 10pm on a snowy night an obvious place to leave a stranded baby naked except for a towel? Doesn’t sound too considered to me.

The mother may well not have asked to be pregnant

Doesn’t justify them leaving the baby for dead in the dark, cold night.

Yes, I would treat the mother with compassion Then you’re defending someone that has done something so unbelievably cruel.

i gave birth nearly 30 years in a warm, clean maternity home with trained midwives and pain relief - i was 29 and bloody terrified! my dd was a much wanted baby and i had full family support - dear god this poor woman must be in a terrible state, i hope with all my heart that she comes forward and gets the help she so desperately needs, perhaps she could be helped enough to be able to keep her baby, they both need love, care and protection!

Then you’re defending someone that has done something so unbelievably cruel

There people go again. Using words that they cannot possibly know are apt.

May have been the father who left the baby so as nobody knows I'll not judge until if and when I know any truth rather than speculation

This baby survived by pure chance of being found! It was not likely that someone would stumble upon it stranded in a children’s playpark after 10pm. The mother left it without any regard for its life. If she had even the slightest care, she’s have left it somewhere warm and with more people passing by. Sorry if some people find that hard to swallow and have to find reasons to justify.

Has anyone actually read “TacoLover‘s posts? Or does it just suit your agenda better not to or to tack “I’m sorry for your situation” on to the end of your posts rather than acknowledge that malicious women do abandon babies in the hope that they’ll die?

In terms of believing in innocent until proven guilty, do you really? If it was the young teenage boyfriend of a young girl who had dumped the baby for her would you think he must have been desperate too? Or would you be calling for his head on a platter perhaps? I suspect we all know what the answer to that one would be.

@Josico58 I'm just glad I'm not so emotionally void of compassion that I can't have sympathy with this mother dependent on her circumstances.

I really would not want to be like that.

@Charlie97 whatever sort of comparisons are they to a person that's dumped a baby?!?! I'd say 100% of people have come across a divorce and a woman leaving her husband and kids 🙄 ffs

And I don't live in a nice area I live in a normal area where it doesn't happen!

is a play park after 10pm on a snowy night an obvious place to leave a stranded baby naked except for a towel?

It is if the play park was the closest public place you could get to after giving birth after 10 at night with nothing else to hand to wrap the baby in without stealing something.

@SummerGems yes I've read them.

Yes but nobody knows if it was the mother who left the baby unless they're bloody psychic

@thatsmyspace WTF is the relevance of you living in a normal area where it doesn't happen .....don't be so stupid as to think it can't happen anywhere....

Or would you be calling for his head on a platter perhaps?

Not without knowing all the facts no.

I’m not suggesting for a moment I can guarantee this women wasn’t malicious. I’m saying it’s tastless when posters immediately suggest she should be charged with attempted murder without (a) having any understanding of the law or (b) knowing any more facts than I do.

Working on the basis of what is most likely, some sort of chaotic life for the mother is more likely than her dumping her baby to go on a cruise, right?