To ask you how you self-identify?

[Flyingfish2019]

Inspired by the thread about people identifying as men/women. I wonder if any of you self-identifies as different than people would identify him.
To give an example: I am from a mixed cultural background. I self-identify as a member of several of those cultures... mostly of one but also a bit of the others... even though people typically say you can be a member of just one culture and that you cannot be a member of a culture unless you speak the language. In one case I do not speak the language but identify as a member of that culture anyway because me great-grandmother spoke the language and I knew her. I might not make sense to anybody but me but this is how I self- identify. How about you?

I self identify as a gazillionaire, my bank account does not agree. However, As we can make up any old tosh and identify with it I expect my bank to cooperate

@Snugglepumpkin Oh, I see. I might have gotten that wrong then. I thought that I, born as a woman with two X chromosomes, could also say that I identify as a woman... so that how I identify and how people see me would be the same in that case.

I try to identify with whoever I am talking to, to try and understand them

I used to identify as a Scottish woman but then I found out that my great great grandparents emigrated from Ireland and that became a part of my identity.

@Itsmehooray Why do they ask if they are not interested? Honestly I never introduced myself as “My name is flying fish and my relatives are from there and there“ but some people have asked me about my cultural background and of course I answered what else?

Why do we have to 'identify' as anything? What does 'self-identify' even mean? Seems to me the only people who want to 'identify' or 'self-identify' as something are the ones who are not the thing they 'identify' as.

Why can't we just be what we are?

I don't identify as anything. I just am various things
White, mix of Irish and English, ASD, asthmatic and so on
As soon as I hear I identify as I believe it is an untruth. You either are or you aren't

What assassinated said, I don't identify as a woman, I am one!!! It's an objective thing!

I don't think you fully grasp what 'Self-ID' means OP.

It means you have identifies as 'something' yourself, in contrast to how society in general would identity you.

E.g. someone who is genetically Male may 'self identify' as female, but they are still regarded as Male legally/by society.

If you like to talk about the weather, you like to talk about the weather. Self ID does not come into it.

I’d like to self identify as a lithe, 20 something, witty, blonde thing. I’m reality I’m more of an anemic blob fish

People will see you through their own set of preconceptions no matter what you think, self identify or say.

They also just ask about you to be polite because most people love to talk on endlessly about themselves, but they don't really care about the answers as they are just making conversation.

You don't need to self identify for things you really are (& you are not your grandparents or some other random relative who lived in a different country before you were ever born etc...).

@InsightMars Why can’t we just be what we are

But who defines what we just are.

Let’s take being French for example. Who is French? The person with four French grandparents? The person with two French grandparents? The person without French parents who holds the French passport and was born in France? The person born outside of France who holds the French passport? The person who does not hold the French passport but has French ancestry? I think it plays a role how the person sees himself or herself because there is no objective criterion.

Or a man. Is that only a XY person, what about a XXY person? What about a person born with traits of both genders? What about a person who since early childhood felt he was male.

If your GGM was from Pluto, but you have not lived there, and no one else in your family came from there, you can't speak the language , can't absorb food from the air as your GGM did then you are not from Pluto, you have a strain of Plutonio.

Why can't we just be what we are?

^ this

I can honestly say I have never thought about how or what I identify as . It’s all a load of bollocks as far as I’m concerned .

I truly don’t understand why it even matters, shouldn’t we focus on whether a person is kind , decent, honest , nice to be with etc?

I identify as a gay man. But I can't get any gay men to date me. They are not into my manly vagina and breasts.
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I'm yet another poster that doesn't do the 'identity' shite thing. I just accept reality.

@Snugglepumpkin I do not see the question as polite at all and I wish people would stop asking me that kind of question but because I do not talk with their accent. I did not grow up where I live now and look a bit odd to them of course they ask and of course I answer.

Practing the local accent so that I won’t get asked.

I'm with Nanette.

I just identify as tired...

m.themorningbulletin.com.au/news/aussie-comedian-hannah-gadsbys-netflix-special-is-/3447766

I am especially tired of all this identity politics bullshit.

XXY means a man has Klinefelter syndrome.
My eldest daughter has a chromosome variation and has XXX instead of XX
She identifies as super female

I’m gay, and a woman, and Irish if I had to stick labels on

I identify as able bodied. Doesn't change material reality. Unfortunately.

People identify me often as a racially ambiguous (usually Polish, Russsian or Iberian for some reason but I’ve occasionally had people think I’m mixed race with white and black or south asian heritage), heterosexual, able bodied, and quite young/inexperienced/naive.

I’m actually pretty much your average white English/Irish mixture (dna shows a teensy bit of French/German, and Swedish), pansexual, disabled, and middle aged/have a lot of knowledge of the reality of life.

But that’s less me self-identifying and more just facts that I correct people with if they happen to identify me differently.

Jamie Surely it's just an answer to the question "Tell me a little more about yourself"?

At the risk of sounding narcissistic, I'm a woman in my early forties.

I’d say I’m French, or of French ancestry, or half French or I have dual nationality, you know, like anyone else who has mixed ancestry. Adding the gratuitous ‘identify as’ qualifier doesn’t change what you are, frankly, it makes you look like you either don’t know what you are or are pretending to be something you’re not.

@InsightMars Oh I see, it is about the word identify then. But how would you call it if for example John and Jack both grow up in France. Both don’t have French parents. John embraces the culture and sees himself as Frenchman while Jack does not and plans to leave the country. Wouldn’t you say John identifies as French while Jack does not.