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To ask you how you self-identify?

173 replies

Flyingfish2019 · 31/01/2019 20:54

Inspired by the thread about people identifying as men/women. I wonder if any of you self-identifies as different than people would identify him.
To give an example: I am from a mixed cultural background. I self-identify as a member of several of those cultures... mostly of one but also a bit of the others... even though people typically say you can be a member of just one culture and that you cannot be a member of a culture unless you speak the language. In one case I do not speak the language but identify as a member of that culture anyway because me great-grandmother spoke the language and I knew her. I might not make sense to anybody but me but this is how I self- identify. How about you?

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JamieIsCooking · 31/01/2019 21:37

People talk about a hobby, family events, work etc, then you get the people droning on and they give you a list, who other than their Mum cares?

AssassinatedBeauty · 31/01/2019 21:38

Asking are you a man or a woman is a factual question about objective reality. I am a woman. I don't self identify as a woman, I just am one. Like I have brown eyes and blonde hair, I don't self identify as a brown-eyed person, it's just a simple fact about me.

JamieIsCooking · 31/01/2019 21:38

Ok if I was on a date your sexual orientation would be of interest, otherwise who cares?

Flyingfish2019 · 31/01/2019 21:38

@JamieIscooking Then you self-identify as someone who likes to talk about the weather... no honestly what do you do if somebody ask you if you are a man or a woman, how old you are, if you are married, if you are a soccer fan? Do you refuse to answer the question because you would be talking about yourself?

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Flyingfish2019 · 31/01/2019 21:43

@Assassinatedbeauty: I am a straight woman, born as a woman. So, yes, for me that’s pretty easy to identify as a woman... but I guess in other cases it is not.

As for me with culture (described above).

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lizzie1970a · 31/01/2019 21:44

"Then you self-identify as someone who likes to talk about the weather" What a load of nonsense. That's nothing to do with self-identifying. You're just someone that likes to talk about the weather, where does self-identifying come in?

Like others, I don't self-identify as a woman. I am one. I don't think about. It's just a fact.

OdeToDiazepam · 31/01/2019 21:45

I identity as a middle aged, french burlesque dancer called graham every mon-Wednesday

MadeleineMaxwell · 31/01/2019 21:46

I think you're confusing self-identification, objective reality, identity and personality.

Flyingfish2019 · 31/01/2019 21:48

I think whenever you make a statement starting with I (“I am...“, “I like...“) you self-identify as something. At least how I understand self-identifying but then English is not my native language and I might be wrong about the word but that is how I understand it.

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AssassinatedBeauty · 31/01/2019 21:49

Do you understand what people mean when they say they don't self identify as something, they just simply are?

I am 5ft 7in tall. I don't self identify as that specific height, I just am that height. If I were to self identify as 6ft 3 then I would be wrong, and mistaken. I cannot be 6ft 3, and so to identify as 6ft 3 is meaningless and incorrect.

easyandy101 · 31/01/2019 21:49

Other people identify me I guess

I don't really think about it like that

I'm not the nationality that most people think I am

TheyGotMyName · 31/01/2019 21:49

I identify as myself in my 20s when i was young, slim and attractive. It's a horrible shock and bitter disappointment whenever i catch sight of myself in a mirror or photo
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this definitely this! 😂😂

Ellisandra · 31/01/2019 21:51

It does all sound very wanky, sorry OP.

Yes, we most of us feel part of various different groups, but it sounds very Instagram generation to have to make a big thing of “self-identifying” over it.

It just sounds very self indulgent that you have to “self identify” over something as trivial as liking a TV cartoon.

I also think that self-identifying as a particular culture because a relative 3 generations back was from there and you like it on holiday is self indulgent and attention seeking. In a trying-to-create-something-interesting-about-me way.

Feel a connection to a place because of a family history, yes - self-identify, no.

propertywoe · 31/01/2019 21:51

I think because I am white I am not treated as an “other” so although I have mostly Irish background and an Irish name I have never had the need to belong to that culture/ heritage as I have always been treated as English. The same with being heterosexual. Hope that makes sense

lizzie1970a · 31/01/2019 21:52

"I think whenever you make a statement starting with I (“I am...“, “I like...“) you self-identify as something. At least how I understand self-identifying but then English is not my native language and I might be wrong about the word but that is how I understand it."

No. You've got it wrong. Nothing to do with self-identifying. You're just stating facts about what you like or about yourself.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 31/01/2019 21:52

Good grief.

I am a woman. I don't identify as a woman, I simply am one. It's all such narcissistic bollocks. I wish these people who spend so much time bleating about what they identify as would identify as someone less self-obsessed and attention-seeking.

Properly gives me the rage.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 31/01/2019 21:53

I identify as a 1950s sculptress

JamieIsCooking · 31/01/2019 21:54

People are self identifying as topics of conversation now? ShockGrin

I guess it beats Frankenstein experiments!

Ellisandra · 31/01/2019 21:54

The moment when you wonder if you were too harsh, then scroll back and read “pretentious fucking crap”
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AGHHHH · 31/01/2019 21:54

I don't identify as anything confused I'm just me

This.

JamPasty · 31/01/2019 21:57

I'm me

Flyingfish2019 · 31/01/2019 21:58

@Assinatedbeauty They do not self-identify as something. They just simply are In some cases that makes a lot of sense but in others I am not so sure, to give an example: I know a family, one East-Asian parent, one white. They divorced, children grew up with the white patent. They have four children, three of them identify as mixed but one sees himself as as culturally white.

In my case: Again different cultures in my background. How is any person apart from myself to know which one are important for me and which ones are not? How can a person objectively say “You are this, but not that“?

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BillywigSting · 31/01/2019 21:59

I identify as a vehemently lapsed Catholic and fan of norse mythology

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 31/01/2019 22:00

Well, it IS pretentious claptrap.

Or maybe it just self-identifies as such.

EmeraldShamrock · 31/01/2019 22:01

makes you less aware of growing older, if that makes sense?
I have 2 dc I don't think I am ever aware of getting older, I often get a shock in the mirror, my DM used to say as a person you do not really ever grow old, you grow up, just your reflection changes Grin

I self identify as a person who hates the term "self identify" I am who I am and can't change it by deciding to self identify as anything different.

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