The dictionary definition of woman is a hate crime now. AIBU or is this political correctness gone mad.

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Feminists across the UK have "defaced" statues by dressing them in T-shirts containing the dictionary definition of the word woman .More details here.
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Trans rights groups are calling this a hate crime. I hate to sound like such an old fogie but this it sounds like political correctness gone mad! How is this offensive? What's so offensive about the word woman I don't understand!

The gender-critical are doing their utmost to debate. Stonewall and trans activists refuse to do so, as well as ,doing their utmost to prevent others from debating.

Yes, everyone has the right to their beliefs but we also have the right not to believe. Both believers and non-believers may well find it hurtful to have their views challenged but as long as the challenging is done openly and courageously that's part of life.

YANBU. Frightening times.

Trust me, I find it far more offensive and hate-filled that a bunch of people think that they can erase the experiences of millions of women because they don't want to be men any more. That they think that it's acceptable that the statistics recording those experiences can be undermined without any push back at all is naive at best, although I have other words to describe that belief.

I know who is being dismissive, unkind and antagonistic in the current state of affairs.

• courteously

@GlitterSick

If your aim of spreading "adult human female" t-shirts about is to make the point transwomen aren't welcome or will always be a bloke, surely you can't be surprised that it can be a hate crime

I'm not welcome in the men's toilet because I am biologically female. Or in a teen support group because I am 38. Or as a recipient of a MOBO as I am white (and can't sing). Am I the victim of a hate crime? Or am I simply not able to change the laws of physics, time or biology to suit my own wishes? Retaining sex-segregated spaces is not an act of hate.

Dr Adrian Harrop was the first to complain about the very first billboard, that said Woman = Adult Human Female.I think I'm correct in stating that.
He and Posie Parker were interviewed on Sky news. It was interesting to watch Dr Harrop and his barely suppressed rage. However when he accused Posie Parker of appropriating the word woman. I thought fuck this I'm not going to shut up any more. Germaine Greer was right all those years ago when she said women have no idea how much men hate them.
I have a hoodie with the dictionary definition and I wear it with pride, you know the dictionary definition.

Btw op yanbu

Words that were previously not meant in offensive or vulgar terms are often changed in the dictionary's definition. Words such as retarded, n**ger, coloured (people) etc were once considered polite. This cannot be the case for the word "woman" though. It's just not applicable. So I cannot see how the word woman can EVER be weaponised.

I don't trust liars and those who coerced others to lie.

@ShowOfHands you worded my thoughts perfectly

So I cannot see how the word woman can EVER be weaponised

Some one up thread said it was like the words gay and black amongst others

But i agree with you, i don't understand how woman is weaponised in this context

Those who are horrified that people are agitating against the inclusion of the be-penised in the definition of woman - do you propose a different word to denote those that were formerly under that definition? You know, the ones that are of* the sex that get pregnant rather than the ones that impregnate?

*incudes those that can't get pregnant any more or who have problems that prevent them from doing so (otherwise it wouldn't be a problem to be investigated)

When the regular and daily hate incidents against women stop is when I will listen sympathetically to male-bodied people simpering about how cruel women are for wanting to talk about issues that affect them and only them. Trans women are not women. Men cannot become female. Don't you dare tell me simultaneously that that is a hate crime but that those same males yelling at a 12 yr old that she is a slag who should show them her tits are just boys having harmless fun. A law that supports such a view is a travesty.

Wasn't aware the word black could be used offensively.

ShowOfHands
You could always self identify as male, then you'd have to be welcome. I only know two trans people, they both self identify as male. As I say self identifying is crazy, it is incomprehensible to my mind but these protests are having the opposite effect as their purpose, people are now saying deranged women, lacking understanding of others, full of hatred.

Nayeds
That has to be one of the most naive comments I've ever read on mumsnet

Wasn't aware the word black could be used offensively.

Seriously?

How is the word black offensive?

Used in conjunction with other words then yes could definitely be offensive

But by its self i dont really understand

I think you're wrong onlyjoined
I live in a small rural market town, people were not aware of the attempted erasure Women by certain groups. They are now, I talk to loads of people daily and most have no idea that this is happening. These public statements are raising awareness and that can only be a good thing

How is the word black offensive?

Again, seriously?

Used in conjunction with other words then yes could definitely be offensive

Exactly!! Intent. See, people do get it really. I think.
(Unless it just doesn't apply to transpeople? That's fair game? )

So the word black is not offensive

It is offensive when used in conjunction with an insult

Thats all im saying

So its no good you

Seriouslying all over the place

The statement 'black is not an offensive word' is completely correct

Except, woman doesn't include the cohort some want to include. That's the contention. If you include men, you exclude women and all that.

GlitterStick, what's your new word for those formerly known as women? Or do you not think there is need for one?

Black can be offensive if the intent behind its use and who it is used against is offensive.
I just... how are people not getting this?

Stardustinmyeyes
I also live in a small rural area and yes they are raising awareness but not support, people just see fools dressing statues and preaching hatred, our local paper only supports this view.