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AIBU to request a positive thread on Brexit?

703 replies

mobyduck · 28/01/2019 11:38

Everyone here (nearly) says it will be bad.
Let's hear some positives about our coming freedom from the EU!

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RageAgainstTheVendingMachine · 30/01/2019 07:07

Thank you x

Lweji · 30/01/2019 07:08

We will survive.

That's great. But why shoot yourself first?

Isitmybathtimeyet · 30/01/2019 07:10

Also we already buy plenty of food elsewhere. But supply chains means some of that comes through the EU physically so gets caught up in the issues at ports, and will see its cost price to retailers rise. Plus a fall in sterling. Plus unknown tariffs (because those are problems for everything we buy from everywhere, not just the EU).

And we sell lots outside the EU. The Middle East loves our fresh shellfish. Which they may not be getting in No Deal if we can't get it out of the country quickly enough. Although there's another benefit - dirt cheap lobster and oysters, to go with our lamb.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 30/01/2019 07:56

'We' might survive, but the chief of University Hospital Birmingham warns of cancelled operations if we go No Deal and that we will quickly run out of vital medication.
Does survival of the fittest count as 'we will survive?'

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-47051031

SalrycLuxx · 30/01/2019 08:14

Law of the jungle kiddies, law of he jungle.

Gilead · 30/01/2019 08:43

Although there's another benefit - dirt cheap lobster and oysters, to go with our lamb.
Except we won't have enough and won't be able to process them quickly enough which means they remain as expensive as always.

RosemarysBush · 30/01/2019 08:44

😕Just popped back this morning to see if anyone had found any positives.

Figmentofmyimagination · 30/01/2019 08:48

rosemary err no. Also, I was being sarcastic about the loss of EU students to our universities, inc Scotland. In more normal times, you’d hope this would be obvious. Irony is dead.

SalrycLuxx · 30/01/2019 08:58

I think it’s because we’ve descended into farce figment.

OftenHangry · 30/01/2019 09:01

@Zebra31 apologies Blush

TheElementsSong · 30/01/2019 09:02

It's no longer possible to tell who's being sarcastic and who isn't. In saner times, if somebody said that it would do the country good to be without food, I'd assume sarcasm. But now it's the kind of thing which seems sincerely intended.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 30/01/2019 09:04

Given people are being interviewed as saying that we all need to lose weight.

I'm currently considering whether I should put on weight so I've got a some spare to lose when we go on a national diet Wink

mobyduck · 30/01/2019 09:17

We are a democratic country (in fact we serve as a world-wide model of democracy) and we voted to leave the EU.
Being an advanced country, we would not have done so unless there were benefits in leaving.
Perhaps it is just the lack of notice that will mean we are not fully prepared for leaving?

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BrexitBingoGenerator · 30/01/2019 09:20

Notice!? We’ve had two and a half years to prepare!

Moussemoose · 30/01/2019 09:22

we serve as a world-wide model of democracy

Not really, we are an old democracy but not a very good one.

The British constitution, or lack thereof, is used as an example of something that works despite the structure.

On sarcasm. I really don't know if this comment is serious or not.

Being an advanced country, we would not have done so unless there were benefits in leaving

We are having a national humour failure.

BrexitBingoGenerator · 30/01/2019 09:22

TheElements I agree on the sarcasm front. I too am guilty of this, given my wanky new username.

It’s all just so beyond parody now- I keep expecting Jeremy Beadle to jump out and announce that it’s all been a massive prank. If that did happen, I think I might have to just hug him with relief Blush

BorisBogtrotter · 30/01/2019 09:30

"Being an advanced country, we would not have done so unless there were benefits in leaving"

This is the problem, the leave campaign sold leaving as a panacea to all sorts of different groups.

Many of these groups believe there are different benefits from leaving many of which are in direct conflict with each other.

Farmers want to be out of the CAP ( but still want to have the subsidies) but also want to have tariff free access to the single market.

Same with Fishing, we will get our waters back, and not have to follow and CFP quotas ( we will because these are actually internationally agreed) but still retain tariff free access to the single market to sell 75% of our fish to it.

At the same time, the Economists for Britain are proposing unilateral free trade with the world, ( calling it a world free trade deal although no such thing exists), whilst people in deindustrialised areas are hoping for more protectionism so that the industries return..

There are no good, well thought out reasons.

Even the Democracy and sovereignty point so often trotted out by the leave campaigners who don't want to get into these complicated issues are massively flawed.

The leave campaign objected to British judges rulling on British constitional law, and called them traitors.

They objected to Parliament having a say over when to declare article 50.

One of them has suggested a foreign power stop the UK sovereign parliament from doing what it thinks is best for the UK.

Another has suggested that the Queen close parliament so that Brexit can be forced through by the executive.

No, these were just buzzwords, to pay lip service to as were all of the other points of the campaign. A dark and nefarious group are steering this for their own ends and duping all the leave voters into asking for what will hurt them in then end.

mobyduck · 30/01/2019 09:32

From the Daily Mash: What to do in a Brexit riot
An EU report has warned that Britain could face civil unrest after Brexit. Here’s what to do if you get caught up in a Brexit riot:

Make sure you can run faster than a mobility scooter
If Leavers target Remainers you’ll need to escape from elderly people on their ‘Brexit choppers’. Get in training by jogging round an empty car park with your nan trying to run you over at 3mph.

Do a spot of looting
Violence and anarchy on the streets needn’t be all bad. Encourage angry mobs to riot near Waitrose, Apple stores and Jigsaw so you can get the good stuff.
Learn Brexit self-defence
If you have to go toe-to-toe with a gammon, know their weaknesses. Show them a picture of Remain campaigner Gina Miller. Their already-high blood pressure will instantly incapacitate them with an aneurysm.
During food riots, watch your calories
When you’re running amok in Sainsbury’s it will be tempting to grab expensive meat, chocolate and alcohol products. Stop your January diet and detox being in vain by stuffing your pockets with vegetables, Ryvita and couscous.
Keep a high-vis vest in your pocket
A yellow vest will be an excellent disguise in a pro-Brexit riot. If you’re a puny middle-class chap you can also wear it to enjoy feeling working class and masculine – maybe even in the bedroom?

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User758172 · 30/01/2019 09:47

Positive:

When the 1.3 million migrants that Merkel allowed into Germany are issued German passports, they will find it much more difficult to move to Britain should they wish to.

BorisBogtrotter · 30/01/2019 09:52

"When the 1.3 million migrants that Merkel allowed into Germany are issued German passports, they will find it much more difficult to move to Britain should they wish to."

Idiotic comment. Why would those people who have spent 8 years making a life in Germany suddenly want to come to the UK.

Actually this is on a par with the "Breaking Point" poster for its level of idiocy.

TheElementsSong · 30/01/2019 09:54

When the 1.3 million migrants that Merkel allowed into Germany are issued German passports, they will find it much more difficult to move to Britain should they wish to.

What's wrong with German citizens moving to Britain? Unless you're somehow implying that migrants who eventually qualify for citizenship of their new country, are somehow not as proper citizens, as those who were born citizens in the first place?

Reaa · 30/01/2019 09:54

I'd like Hugh Jackman naked and a million quid and that's more probable than a happy Brexit

Can we share Grin

mobyduck · 30/01/2019 09:55

Great post, BorisBogtrotter! Summed it up nicely!
Where shall we spend the £39 million?

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StoorieHoose · 30/01/2019 09:58

figment sarcasm is difficult to sense in a written post at the best of times never mind during this nonsense - however I stand my reply as hopefully someone who does think like your post will read it

User758172 · 30/01/2019 10:05

@BorisBogtrotter

Niall Ferguson made this idiotic comment. I don’t think many folks consider him to be an idiot?

Grin

Boris - I understand you’re trying hard to live inside an echo chamber, never hearing a dissenting view or opposing opinion, but it’s doing nothing for you. Perhaps try and address the comments themselves, as opposed to flailing wildly and throwing insults every chance you get? It’s so repetitive and childish and so predictable!

Wink

Of course not every migrant out of the 1.3 million will want to leave Germany for the UK. But some will. And I’m glad it will potentially be more difficult for them to do so.