AIBU to request a positive thread on Brexit?

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Everyone here (nearly) says it will be bad.
Let's hear some positives about our coming freedom from the EU!

Well it's really going to hurt for the first while. We'll likely have shortages of some foods while some for export may end up being destroyed. It will even out after a few weeks/months and we'll all be grand apart from needing to adapt to some new brands that make up for those we've lost. There will be a recessionary period, we're predicted to lose 1.5% of our GDP. That's like falling a year behind economically. But after that there is a good chance we'll flourish. Being the only native English speaking country in the EU could be extremely beneficial in the long term. I would have thought we'd muck that up but tbh, the way our entire parliament has pulled together, set aside party politics and worked as a unit that puts the county's best interests at the fore has been quite heartening. The absolute value in the EU as the other 26 nations in the union have stood as one behind us has never been more clear. We didn't vote for this clusterfuck. It was foisted on us, a completely sovereign nation. And brings a very real threat of war on our border that clearly very, very few in the UK give a fuck about. But long-term, I think we really could gain from this.

Oh yeah, that's right I'm talking about Ireland. This is going to be nasty for us, for quite a while but long-term is likely to be a positive. If anything ever leads to a united Ireland it will be this. And the EU will almost certainly help hugely with the pain of the transition of unifying the nightmare of the NI economy without it tanking our functioning one. If anything ever leads to an independent Scotland in the EU it will be this. So yeah. I wish you guys weren't doing this. I wish you could somehow row down and change your trajectory. I'd give up all the eventual benefits to not have you guys tank in the way that you are going to. A small handful of already wealthy men are going to get even more wealthy from a crash out and the rest of you are their collateral damage. It's terrifying and heartbreaking to watch. If you aren't a disaster capitalist who has been planning and pushing for this for a very long time, there aren't a lot of positives for the rest of you.

I think others have already said it, but one advantage is surely Jamie Oliver's promise to leave UK if Brexit happens. #Pukka guvnor

Lonelyplanetmum what a wonderful post. Sad that it is all true.

the way our entire parliament has pulled together, set aside party politics and worked as a unit that puts the county's best interests at the fore has been quite heartening.

Have you been watching the same Brexit as me?

Lwejl it's sarcasm

She's talking about the Irish political parties all singing from the same hymn sheet.

Not even the most ardent Brexit fanatic couldn't say the British political parties have worked together. Even politicians within the same party are pulling in ten different directions.

OP, I do wish that you'd asked this question before the referendum instead of opting for complacency and not voting...not having a go, I certainly didn't expect the result we got...but I'm frustrated as it's something I am hearing more and more of as we hurtle towards the possibility of a no deal, and people say 'oh maybe I should have voted?' Yes you should have done. You really should.

Dumb question I know but could Theresa May play chicken right til the last minute then rescind article 50 on the 28th March?
HOPE DIES LAST

Lwejl it's sarcasm

Thank god. It did look a bit like it, but not very clear to me. Phew!

Dumb question I know but could Theresa May play chicken right til the last minute then rescind article 50 on the 28th March?

Well she could, but given how fucked off the EU would be by that stage and the civil war she'd start in her own party, I doubt its an attractive option.

Thank god. It did look a bit like it, but not very clear to me. Phew

It's not sarcasm, trancepants is talking about the impact on Ireland.

Sorry my fault, I thought it referred to Lonelyplanetmum's very funny (sarcastic and ironic) post.

Dumb question I know but could Theresa May play chicken right til the last minute then rescind article 50 on the 28th March?

Hope does die last. She could pull article 50 on the 28th but if Yvette Coopers amendment goes through tonight (Corbyn is whipping his MPs) and no brexit deal is agreed in parliament by 26th then it’s likily article 50 will be extended to 31st December. And on it will go.

Here’s one (but if a doubled-edged sword though, as with everything Brexitty).

At least for the next year or two, it should be much easier to get your DC into a uni (although take care to choose one that is less likely to collapse into administration). There will be fewer lecturers and their terms and conditions will be even more compromised than they are at the moment, but hey ho, you can’t have everything.

There should also be lots more uni-owned housing on offer for your DCs, as unis have invested heavily in their own accommodation blocks with lovely bathrooms etc, not anticipating flight of EU students.

The uni experience will be ‘British’ again, as it was in the 70s and 80s.

Also, more graduate opportunities maybe! (although eeek fewer jobs, so as with all brexit ‘advantages’, this one doesn’t bear too close scrutiny). In any event, moving swiftly on, there will be far fewer well educated and multilingual foreigners to compete with Leavers’ DC for job opportunities. This must be a ‘good thing’. It was certainly a key advantage highlighted on these threads before the referendum, as I recall.

@Zebra31 what's the uni "british" experience? 😂
Seriously baffled 😂

OftenHangry you have me confused. Are you talking about Figmentofmyimaginations post?

This is really a ‘give me all your ideas and I’ll tell you why you’re wrong’ post.

oftenH Ok well I’ve only got my own and my family’s experience to go on, but in the early 80s when I was at university, all the undergraduates were British except a smattering of Hong Kong Chinese, plus a few postgrads from America, Australia and Canada. 25 years later I went back to university and there were lots of EU undergraduates (in London). And in the last 5 or so years, my DD’s Scottish uni has had about a 10-12% undergraduate intake each year from the EU. In future, I’m guessing that universities will revert much more to the sort of student composition we saw in the 1980s - although who knows what will happen to ‘class/wealth’ diversity, as I expect student fees may start to climb as undergraduate numbers fall.

Who knows. All we can really be certain of is that brexit is crap for higher education.

Brexit is a huge shock, once we understand it is reality, we will be able to make plans.
We will have to source food elsewhere and sell our stuff elsewhere.
It is likely we won't manufacture as much as there will be reduced investment, but we will be able to export some things.
Food prices for fresh vegetables may go up 60% or more, but non-perishables sourced around the world may be cheaper.
A large number of farmers and fishermen will be made redundant, but since they swung the Brexit vote, fuck them.
We will survive.

The price of non-perishable items will rise to compensate for lower sales on the rest. Estimates are a rise of at least 20%.

Re Scottish university having 10% EU students. Scotland NEEDS these students, we welcome them and hope that after uni they want to stay in Scotland.

What on earth is wrong with your DD spending a couple of years with people from other countries?

@StoorieHoose
Do Scottish universities charge students residing in the UK the same rate as English students if they have an Irish passport? are overseas student rates lower than English rates and what does that mean if you have dual nationality? If English unis consider you as overseas if you have not resided in England for 3 years, what do Scottish unis view your status as? (Born in England, lived in Germany for 12 years) Thanks in advance.

I think (and would recommend googling in case I am wrong) its more to do with residency - if you live in Scotland for 3 years you don’t pay fees. So I would think if you reside in Germany then you wouldn’t pay fees as an EU national. If you reside in rUK you have to pay fees

We will have to source food elsewhere and sell our stuff elsewhere.

I can't stand stupid statements like this. At this time, it's amazing that people are still saying things like this.

When were you ever forbidden from buying or selling outside the EU?

The problem is that by leaving the EU you're also leaving trade agreements with other countries, but will have to negotiate from a much weaker position than as part of the EU.