AIBU to request a positive thread on Brexit?

[mobyduck]

Everyone here (nearly) says it will be bad.
Let's hear some positives about our coming freedom from the EU!

Burpsandfustles At what point do you accept its happening we accept it’s happening but it doesn’t help solve the immediate to medium (most likely long term) problems we face if it’s a No Deal brexit. French revolution and Americans fighting George III aside. Do you have any idea what DH’s company should do about the 24% increase on imported foods shipped in from countries like the Philippines? 60 days and counting. We need ideas quickly. Freud2 suggested rowing boats and smugglers but not sure that’s going to fly when there are 100s of containers coming in.

As for this little beauty..... As far as I’m concerned it would do the country good to go without for a little while. Make them appreciate what they had I mean where do you go from here?

I can’t remember who mention the ‘left wing rabid remainers on MN will just rant on about Project Fear.’ Can I clarify. I am more the center right rabid remainder on MN ranting about Project Fact. Come on leavers, throw some solutions my way. I still have my pad and pen at the ready. Surely there must be more solutions than Freud2 rowing boat smugglers?

There’ll be more jobs in the army for working class kids when the conflict kicks off again in Northern Ireland because if the newly appointed border and we need lots of British soldiers back on the streets? I for one am really looking forward to the re-ignition of a bloody conflict where the main victims were civilians.

i just gave you one. Freedom from the unelected power of a federal European state and the danger that brings. It’s a pretty big positive in my book.

There are none. ZERO. 0. Nada.
Unless you are the sort of person who prefers fantasy to reality and is generally deluded...

Oh hang on a minute - you voted leave it seems.... in that case it will be MARVELLOUS if you just believe... bet you're really looking forward to 'taking back control'. Whatever the fuck that means.

It’s great news for tax-avoiding multi— millionaires, as they will not be subject to the incoming tax regulations.

Good news for Jacob Rees Mogg, who believes so strongly in the UK economy that he’s moving investments to the EU.

Good news for hedge fund managers who bet on the economy failing.

US health insurance companies see dollar signs lighting up in the ruins of the NHS.

Our national turnip-based creativity levels will have to increase.

Good news for Putin - has the US in his pocket now, and his side project to destabilise Europe is going as planned.

Other countries might benefit from looking on at this utter dog’s breakfast playing out from a petulant nation (who had the best possible bespoke deal with Europe , and threw it away in a tantrum because 30 odd % of them were too stupid to find out how their own Parliament , immigration laws and justice system worked, and a similar number didn’t vote), and thinking thank fuck they are not that ridiculous.

The rest of us, not so much positive news. Not even those hoping to corner the market in “ Lisbon Treaty - treatying all over Europe without you noticing since 2009” t-shirts.

Hopefully that cockwomble Nigel Farage will disappear. That's the only positive I can think of.

"All leavers have 'killer arguments' that could defeat remain arguments but they choose not to deploy them for their own mystical reasons."

What ignorance, I guess that's remainer logic. Don't know any leaver that claims to think this. We have opinions & preferences which remainers don't share, its as simple as that.

Remainer: I like oranges.
Leaver: I like apples.
Remainer: Convince me apples are better.
Leaver: I prefer them!
Remainer: Well that doesn't convince me, what is your killer argument?
Leaver: I prefer them!
Remainer: Well then apples should be banned because you won't share your 'killer' argument.
Leaver: Yawn.
Remainer: You are not listening to me I don't like apples.
Leaver: Well lets ask the people which they prefer. We could vote on it.

It’s gone all 1984 - brexiteers ‘Bad is good’ ‘loss is gain’.

Seriously, can’t we invoke an IQ benchmark for the right to vote. What a bloody joke. I’m being dictated to by Mr Dun and Mrs Daily Fail

@Walkingdeadfangirl

Simple "opinions & preferences". Ok the example on this thread.

Freud2 the EU is an "undemocratic establishment".

Mousse no it isn't it is quite clearly democratic.

Freud2 you so mean to me boo boo.

This isn't an opinion or a preference. The EU is demonstrably democratic.

The European Parliament is elected.
The Council of Ministers is made up of elected politicians.

See democratic.

walking

The difference there is that you liking apples makes not one jot of difference to me.
Leaving the EU does. Big time.
So I’d prefer it if you could defend your position a bit better than ‘I just want to’.

Boo boo should be boo hoo.😢

That's a very poor argument. The situation will be the same for most of us: no apples and oranges.

Some people are sitting comfortably at home waiting for Brexit to deliver them a united Ireland.

I'm curious as to who sees that as a positive. There was an interesting discussion recently on an Irish parents site where there was very little positive said about the idea.

Maybe the upside of Brexit is that we will not walk into a utopian united Ireland in the way the Brexiters walked into their utopian EU free existence. Unicorns and all.

More like this:
Remainer: I like having a job.
Leaver: I like being made redundant.
Remainer: Convince me jobs are better.
etc etc

Ha! Just as I predicted. NoCure. I gave a positive and have been totally dismissed. If you cannot even acknowledge that there is anything at all that could possibly be good about a country leaving the grips of an unelected federal power - if you are so utterly sure beyond reason that NOTHING can be good about that and that you are absolutely right and I am actually deluded - then congratulations! You have reached new heights of bigotry and fascism.

walkingdeadgirl you were meant to be voting on the best outcome for the whole of the UK, not your ill-informed ‘preference’.

I’d ‘prefer’ not to work, but as the well-being of my family depends on my financial contribution I will continue working. And perhaps my preference isn’t based on fact but an idea I have of not working that bears no resemblance to the actual reality.

Bunnyfuller
Seriously, can’t we invoke an IQ benchmark for the right to vote. What a bloody joke. I’m being dictated to by Mr Dun and Mrs Daily Fail

Leave voter and happy to go head-to-head on an IQ test any time you like.

Don’t need a head to head, just one solid fact with source which demonstrates a benefit to UK from leaving EU. Please ensure you include the economic implications.

Newts? We're exporting UK newts now? Sigh.

"unelected federal power "

As already pointed out - the EU is NOT unelected. And I suggest Google to look up the dictionary definition of the word Federal. It doesn't mean what you think it does!

This is just spouting soundbites without understanding what you are talking about.

Oh god we are doing head to head IQ tests now. just spat my tea out. Is that a bit like a dance off?

This is why I never usually bother with these threads.

You have reached new heights of bigotry and fascism

Leavers are such a hysterical lot. Hope they have full access to blood pressure meds in Brexitannia.

As other posters have already said, as the cheap labour tap of freedom of movement is turned off, wages will rise (this is already happening) and rents will fall (this is already happening.also). This is a huge benefit.
Freedom of movement is just one example of many EU rules which are unpopular and problematic for the UK but sacrosanct to EU ideology and seen as essential to the EU project. After Brexit (even a soft WA Brexit ) we can start to diverge at last.

Can someone possibly tell me how we vote for our MEP's? Ashamed to say I know we have about 6 of them per county (I think) but no idea how we would go about electing them?

My only consolation is that I'm 70 years old now so I probably won't be around long enough to see the whole country slide further and further into the shit over the next fifty years.

Whoever the 'we' is that voted for the whole bloody mess, I wasn't among them.