To go back to this house?

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We're trying to move house.

I hate where I live.

We've sold ours and found somewhere that we thought was perfect.

Got survey done, arranged removals, almost got to exchange etc. Then we went back for another viewing to measure up.

The vendor was starting to remove fixtures and fittings, things were broken and dirty.

We pulled out.

Since then, we have found nothing else. Nothing.

The vendor of that house put it back on the market and sold it last week.

Would it be even worth our time going back to them?

We could complete in a week and I know the vendor has already bought his new place so is paying two mortgages. He could move much more quickly with us than with his new buyers. Would that count?

I can't sleep for worrying about this. I'm in tears at thought of being trapped in our current home.

Help!

The vendor could have been replacing the kitchen bits and lights with cheaper versions. He is entitled to do that.
How the floor collapsed after something was moved across it is beyond me, especially as a full structural survey hadn't shown up any issues.
As for the dog turds, who knows?! (but we all want to )

Can't believe I've just read the whole thread in one go and for what?!

OP, please take a deep breath & either approach the vendor or leave them to it.

You are being ridiculous.

😂🤣😅😄😃 Ladyofcanyon

Make yourself known to all the agents in the area you want to buy in - you are hot property if you’re in a very proceedable position Except estate agents share details of flaky,would-be buyers.

The floor was probably destroyed when he dragged them across it. A couple of the cupboard doors were off too.

if the floor can be destroyed by dragging a washing machine across it, then you should put in a claim against your surveyors, as obviously they missed it

Sounds like you had a lucky escape if the seller was taking the kitchen with him. On the plus side, it was never your house and you didn't actually buy it; so you haven't lost serious cash.

Is it just me that can't figre out why if you have 6 figure savings you are living in what sounds like a rough area? Did you win the lottery a few weeks a go and can finally afford to move or have these savings been there for a long time and you have just chosen to stay in an undesirable area? doesn't make sense to me.

If you have so much money you have an amazing amount of choice why just this one estate? Is it like the millionaires row of your area and you must live there to prove how much money you have??

I just don't get it with that much in bank plus a house to sell you have so much more choice than many of us and yet there are not any other houses available that would be suitable for you?

My understanding is that the general assumption, without an inventory agreeing what stays and goes, is that the vendor can take fittings away, but not fixtures. Fittings are basically things not attached to the house - eg free standing appliances in the kitchen, curtains, even fitted carpets. Fixtures are things like fitted kitchens and integrated appliances, bathroom suites, anything attached to the house by more than a few hooks. If you take lighting fixtures away, you are legally obliged to replace them with a ceiling rose and lightbulb - you are not allowed to leave behind bare wires!
Some vendors are cf who remove everything they can possibly get away with, apparently just for the sake of it, so an inventory is essential, so that you know what you are paying for and what the house might look like after (eg if there are no carpets left, no curtain rails, no toilet seats, lots of bare lightbulbs, a hole in the wall where a gas fire used to be etc, etc).

Renting is dead money
But you've said you are desperate.
It's not dead money if it gives you breathing space to sort something out.

Don't go ahead and buy a house when what you saw was enough to have you running for the hills! Calm down. It doesn't have to be that house or nothing. Sit tight and another suitable house will come on the market. Even if you lose your buyers by waiting you've already sold once, putting your house back on the market will be a click of a button for the EA.

Normally it is on your contract if the seller is leaving them or taking them. So perfectly normal if seller has said he wasn’t leaving them.

Fixtures such as fancy lights, chandeliers, shades, etc, sure. But ‘fittings’ (wiring/flex/bulb holder, etc) are not usually removed, and the Law Society notes that ‘If the seller removes a light fitting, it is assumed that the seller will replace the fitting with a ceiling rose, a flex, bulb holder and bulb and that they will be left in a safe condition.’

So even if the vendor was ripping out all of the light fittings (i.e. wiring), safe replacements are legally required to be installed in their place.

But let’s be honest, he probably wasn’t doing that, was he?

Loads of people sell their property and rent for six months whilst waiting for a house to be finished, or the right one to come along. It isn’t dead money in the sense that people usually regard it, because you’re in a really good position to buy and an attractive prospect for a vendor.

I’m wondering why, if you hate the area you’re in so much OP, you bought there in the first place. With substantial savings, surely you would have had more choice.

Anyway, it seems as though you’ve made your mind up that it’s not going to work, so it probably won’t.

I think your being overly dramatic OP,your in an enviable position. Just rent for a few months, that house wasn't for you.
Email or go into all the estate agents round you this week and tell them what you are after. You'll soon get something I'm sure.

at least you won't have the bad karma of laughing at someone else's misfortune.
Well aren't you a peach op.
Currently in this country, others are having to rely on food banks to feed their families; many others are sleeping on the streets with no home at all.
But let's not laugh at your misfortune of having a roof over your head that isn't to your liking; your refusal to move into rented accommodation because it doesn't suit you (and it isn't "dead money" as it's paying to put another roof over your head).
And your misfortune of having a six figure sum in savings. No, let's not laugh.

Sell and rent for a while until you find the perfect home.

So the likelihood is he was taking out all the Neff and AEG appliances and replacing them with Beko ones then. It's this isn't it?

I need to know about the dog shit, you've not said how much, where, or whether it was smeared anywhere.

Finally are you sure you're not my son pretending to be a woman? He's as dramatic and entitled as you are not sure how I managed to produce such a spoilt brat and he gets short shrift from me when he brings his amateur dramatics to my life.

It sounds like you need to grow up. Whatever advice has been kindly offered you've an excuse not to take it. So sit and sulk then.

Where was the dog shit?

Sorry, I missed a post. He wasn't taking the kitchen, but integrated appliances and light fittings? It's not usual to take integrated appliances, but it's normal to take light fittings. The OPs exaggerations sound bizarre.

If you're in the UK can we have a link to the current rightmove listing so we can see the actual state of the kitchen please

Part of the issue here is your husband. You weren't at all unreasonable to pull out, nor are you unreasonable to want to move. I can feel your frustration because the person you look to for support is telling you it is all your fault you are in what you perceive to be a desperate situation. That's a horrible feeling.

If I were you I would have a rest, take some time out of thinking about this. Then look again. Don't pursue the dog shit house, it'll always hold bad feelings. Keep looking on the market, let your house sell. Point out to your husband that being a cash buyer may well save you the same amount of money as you would spend on renting for 6 months, and that it isn't dead money as it buys you a safe home for your family. Just breathe a bit, you're not trapped, you will come out of this.

But don't TTC yet, I'm not sure that your husband isn't an arse.

Yes they could temporarily rent, as they got 6 figure savings and good wages. Put them in an even better position to buy quickly. Probably is really the best thing in this situation. Renting can be quickly organised, maybe not in a week,so buyers delayed slightly, but OP said her husband refuses to. Presumably OP you would agree to renting?

Except estate agents share details of flaky,would-be buyers.. They do indeed, but when the market is slow they don’t look a gift horse in the mouth.

So you’re quite prepared to possibly lose your buyer - and let’s face it, with smack heads fighting outside you’re not exactly going to have buyers queueing round the corner - because “renting is dead money”. Renting will get you out of that house a damn sight quicker than pulling out of the house you’d been in the process of buying, trying to find a new one, and maybe your buyer pulling out too because now it’s all taking a lot longer to complete on your house.

Forget about that house. If you’re really desperate to move, get yours sold, rent for 6months and you'll be in a far better position when the house you want comes on the market. You will be free to move whenever.

You need to stop catastrophising. You have money in the bank (much more than most of us and we all manage to buy and sell houses without this level of drama), and you should be listening to the advice on this thread instead of throwing your toys out of the pram.

I see you @Charlie97