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To go back to this house?

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trapped2019 · 27/01/2019 06:33

We're trying to move house.

I hate where I live.

We've sold ours and found somewhere that we thought was perfect.

Got survey done, arranged removals, almost got to exchange etc. Then we went back for another viewing to measure up.

The vendor was starting to remove fixtures and fittings, things were broken and dirty.

We pulled out.

Since then, we have found nothing else. Nothing.

The vendor of that house put it back on the market and sold it last week.

Would it be even worth our time going back to them?

We could complete in a week and I know the vendor has already bought his new place so is paying two mortgages. He could move much more quickly with us than with his new buyers. Would that count?

I can't sleep for worrying about this. I'm in tears at thought of being trapped in our current home.

Help!

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jarviscockerslover · 27/01/2019 09:40

I think you need to write this one off, it's over and done with.
It clearly wasn't the right house for you otherwise you wouldn't have let it go over such relatively minor and fixable issues.
Learn your lesson and move on- next time don't rush into hasty decisions that can have such an impact on your life.
And it would've been wise to take photos of the so-called ripping out of the kitchen and the piles of dog shit and broken floor as evidence.
It seems like it's going to cause you more stress to have to try and sell your current house again so if I were you I'd go through with the sale and other posters have said rent in the area that you want something else will turn up!

LizzieSiddal · 27/01/2019 09:43

So you have over £100,000 in savings and think it will all go if you rent for 6 months?

We’re you thinking of renting Buckingham Palace?

brizzledrizzle · 27/01/2019 09:46

YABU, you have messed around that vendor, you are messing around your buyers and his new buyers. If you go back to him don't be surprised if he tells you to fuck off.

Russell19 · 27/01/2019 09:46

It's normal to take light fittings and appliances...... isn't it? I'm not a house moving expert but the times I have moved you would be charged extra for these things anyway and state the cost on the form.

FiveShelties · 27/01/2019 09:46

Are you in the UK op? I am intrigued that you could complete in a week. My experience of UK market is that you are lucky to complete in two months.

HAMGina · 27/01/2019 09:48

LotC it sounds like him moving a washing machine has caused the floor to collapse into a sewer like pit of dog shit that he's been keeping under the floorboards

That's exactly how I read it too.

Transpires:

he was moving some appliances out of his own kitchen and had marked the floor (maybe);

there was some dog shit too (presumably not glued to he floor) - mass unknown.

He had also taken a couple of his own kitchen cupboard doors off his own kitchen cabinets.

on a day that OP decided to pop around unexpectedly to measure up on a house they hadn't exchanged on.

Or maybe they had arranged to come round - in which case he was hardly "pulling a fast one".

All of this could've been rectified/made good by exchange/completion - especially if the full survey picked up no structural concerns to the kitchen floor - or indeed a dogshit cesspit.

FiveShelties · 27/01/2019 09:48

Ladyofthecanyon you asked all those questions that we are all just waiting to see answered😂

Iloveautumnleaves · 27/01/2019 09:49

He denied it all

So? It would have been easy enough to have sorted out legally and at far less cost than pulling out.

Even if you couldn’t have negotiated a lower prices (which you could have) if you are living in such a dreadful area you’re scared to go out at night etc then the cost of replacing even the entire kitchen would have been worth it. You’ve lost money now anyway.

You sound really unwell. Have you come off or changed and meds or anything like that?

Renting is dead money. I’m not sure why people are getting weird about that. However, there are times in your life when it’s still the better option. Renting while you look for a place to buy isn’t the end of the world. Rent the smallest place in a safe area and house hunt hard.

DawgLover · 27/01/2019 09:49

So much of this seeks like exaggerated bullshit: ripping the kitchen out, the floor collspsed, dog shit everywhere, solicitor was useless, vendor gaslighted you (this isn't the same as lying btw)

What you've got is a situation of your own making. Instead of referring back to the f&f signed off you threw a strop and pulled out. You left the vendor high and dry. Now that you can't find anything's better you want to go back and leave the new buyers high and dry.

All of your replies come across as half truths, wrapped up on your own selfish dramatics.

ShadyLady53 · 27/01/2019 09:49

I think it’s normal to take appliances (although not integrated appliances) and light fittings. If you’d want them left, that needed to be stipulated in the contract.

MacarenaFerreiro · 27/01/2019 09:49

It's normal to take light fittings and appliances...... isn't it?

It depends. If it's a fully fitted kitchen with integrated hob/dishwasher/fridge freezer, you'd expect it to be left. I would expect a vendor to take lampshades, but not light fittings leaving bare wires. I'd expect them to remove curtains, but leave the poles.

But any time we've ever moved the solicitor has asked us to complete a form indicating exactly what was included in the sale in terms of fixtures and fittings.

HAMGina · 27/01/2019 09:49

FiveShelties
TBF I exchanged and completed on the same day.

SheCameFromGreeceSheHadaThirst · 27/01/2019 09:49

It's normal to take light fittings and appliances...... isn't it?

Of course it’s not normal to take light fittings! Grin

ShadyLady53 · 27/01/2019 09:51

If someone has bought fancy light fittings then of course I wouldn’t expect them to leave them...Chandeliers can cost thousands!

I’d just buy my own once I was in.

SaturdayNext · 27/01/2019 09:52

I'm really sceptical that, with 6 figure savings, you can't find anywhere suitable. Maybe you need to be a bit more flexible about the area where you want to live?

How on earth did your surveyor not pick up the state of the kitchen floor?

SusieOwl4 · 27/01/2019 09:52

If you work out how much the appliances were worth you could have replaced them and taken him to small claims court without a solicitor . In the bigger scheme of how much the house meant to you it’s not the end of the world .

Oliversmumsarmy · 27/01/2019 09:53

Of course it’s not normal to take light fittings

Normally it is on your contract if the seller is leaving them or taking them. So perfectly normal if seller has said he wasn’t leaving them.

AwakeNow · 27/01/2019 09:54

trapped2019, I am sorry that vendor was shady, and tried to pull one over on you. Good thing that you went over when you did. Just keep looking and a house that is right for you will eventually be found.

BookwormMe2 · 27/01/2019 09:54

It's normal to take light fittings and appliances...... isn't it?

If you've bought fancy light fittings costing £££s then you can take them with you, you just have to replace them with something suitable if you've ticked on the F&F form that they're part of the sale.

LadyOfTheCanyon · 27/01/2019 09:55

@HAMGina

Dogshit Cesspit! Couldn't have put it better myself!

ilmmaiss · 27/01/2019 09:57

You sound lovely. Chose to back out after buying the house, left the buyer owning two houses, now it's sold again you're tempted to do the dirty on the new buyers? For something that was your own fault anyway? And you claim this situation, with a roof over your head, money in the bank and able to buy another property leaves you "fucked"? Shit I wish I had problems in life like you do.

HAMGina · 27/01/2019 09:57

I would take some of my nice light fittings for sure - unless the buyer wanted to pay extra for them.

I would take my washing machine too - but there's a a backstory there - I would make sure that was accounted for by the time completion had happened,.

I would want to move them out as early as possible so if I had my next place sorted. I would do that.

Sounds like the vendor was just packing, before exchange to be organised and we all know messy houses get when you are packing it all up.

And the OP left him high and dry.

So essentially OP shot herself in the foot and cut the nose off to spite her face, wasted hella lot of money and time because she saw the vendor ... packing?

FiveShelties · 27/01/2019 09:58

HAMGina yes I have exchanged twice on a Thursday and completed on the Friday, but on properties which I was already buying, never on one where Someone else was buying.

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 27/01/2019 09:59

OP you need to calm down or you’ll end up making another rash decision. The vendor will not drop his new buyer for you. Your only hope is for them to also drop out. (You could ask the agent to keep you informed on that).

There may be something behind him taking the integrated appliances - did you re-negotiate your offer when you got the survey results? At any rate, you’ve both lost faith.

Get your agents to do their job and stall your buyers and any others in the chain.

Make yourself known to all the agents in the area you want to buy in - you are hot property if you’re in a very proceedable position. Be prepared to make compromises, and choose somewhere you could easily sell again if it turns out not to be right for you. No doer uppers!

Don’t try and be a shit hot negotiator, be prepared to pay a fair price.

There is always another house.

HeronLanyon · 27/01/2019 09:59

Dog shot cesspit indeed. I wonder if there is perhaps an old overflowing septic tank involved ?

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