To go back to this house?

[trapped2019]

We're trying to move house.

I hate where I live.

We've sold ours and found somewhere that we thought was perfect.

Got survey done, arranged removals, almost got to exchange etc. Then we went back for another viewing to measure up.

The vendor was starting to remove fixtures and fittings, things were broken and dirty.

We pulled out.

Since then, we have found nothing else. Nothing.

The vendor of that house put it back on the market and sold it last week.

Would it be even worth our time going back to them?

We could complete in a week and I know the vendor has already bought his new place so is paying two mortgages. He could move much more quickly with us than with his new buyers. Would that count?

I can't sleep for worrying about this. I'm in tears at thought of being trapped in our current home.

Help!

That's the only thing you're taking from this thread? Really?!

Give us your budget and area you want to live in op. I bet we can find something!

*I pulled out because I was angry that he was deliberately damaging our lovely house

Well there you go. You made the decision you accept the consequence. Quite frankly you don’t sound old enough to buy a house. And it wasn’t ‘your’ lovely house. It was his.*

^ This. He still owned the house. It wasn't yours yet.

So fridge, freezer, dishwasher, washing machine? Also the job and over or not?

You've thrown your toys out of the peak instead of speaking with your solicitor.

You've probably lost more money pulling out than the cost or replacement

Learn from it and move on!

Do you have your own money?

If it was me I’d be inclined to rent for just me and my child, given that where you live is so bad. If your DH wants to stay in the house he will find his principles aren’t much company.

You say this I need a house. I'm prepared to swallow my pride for a decent life for my family., but not enough to rent for 6 months?

So you pulled out because of a crap solicitor, some appliances and scuff marks on the floor?

Maybe he paid a lot for his appliances and wanted to take them with him and replace with something cheaper if they were included in the fixtures and fittings.

Yes. All on the fixtures and fittings form,

He was pulling a fast one.

So F&F form said, for example, integrated dishwasher included. You happen to turn up on the same day he's deciding to remove it. You refer him to the form and what, he claims he never ticked that box? Or he said he wasn't removing the dishwasher and it's actually still there?

None of this makes any sense at all. And you do need to clarify what the floor "collapsing" actually means

OP understandably you're pissed off because your house purchase hasn't gone smoothly. However, house purchases fall through every day. We lost two houses before finally finding a great one. I was upset at the time, but everyone said 'everything happens for a reason' and they were absolutely right. I'm so glad we didn't get the first two houses. You're looking at this from a very short term point of view. Yes this has been a rubbish experience, but you have to pick yourself back up again and carry on looking. Spring isn't far away and that is a key time when sellers put houses on the market. There isn't anything available now, but there will be in the future.

You've had your moment of 'why me?' and now need to put the lost house behind you and move on. If you won't rent, you'll lose the buyer for your house, so you need to be very sure you'll easily get another buyer when you find another house. In the meantime, can you speak to your buyers to see how long they are able to wait, as your purchase has fallen through? Your DH sounds very immature. Renting is not dead money when it has a purpose and will only be short term. Your current situation isn't having a good effect on you, so your DH should be willing to do whatever is takes to sort the problem out.

Have you leafleted the area you're interested in or looked for house searching advice via the location, location, location TV page? Have you done anything proactive, rather than just feeling sorry for yourself? I don't mean to sound harsh, but you need put this behind you and start the hunt again for your dream home. It is out there and will be worth it.

I think you aren’t actually serious about wanting solutions. You just want to rant.

But. Surely there would have been photographic evidence? The pictures from the original listing? Then you could have photographed the damage/missing appliances/dog shit.

No point going over it now. That house has gone. You need to accept that so you can move on.

There is absolutely no way that they will sell to you when they have a serious buyer which they got after being let down buy you. They won’t trust you. If they accepted your offer they’d be risking losing yet another buyer because, at back of their minds, is the fact you’ve already let them down. Current buyer hasn’t!

You’ll be in a much better position to buy as a cash buyer. Go ahead and sell yours and rent.

That's a really good point, DameSquashalot. The vendor could've been swapping them for ones a bit cheaper, which he was within his rights to do - you don't have to stipulate what make/model is included in fixtures and fittings, just that one is. I feel sorry for OP now - if she'd dealt with it rationally instead of blowing her top she'd still have her house.

I'm trapped in a shit house

That is up to you and your dh. No one else.

You aren’t trapped, there is no reason to stay apart from you choosing to stay where you are.

It was the vendor who shafted us. We'd paid for a full survey, deposit for removal firm (with packing) and even stated shopping for furniture. That bastard took it all way from me

No he didn’t.
Whilst what he did might appear to be not right. You could have renegotiated the price and had the vendor put everything back before you bought. Instead it was you who walked away.

As I have said upthread I personally would have walked. It would have been my choice.

Yes what he did was ridiculous but ultimately you had 2 choices. Renegotiate or Walk. You were the one to choose walk.

Op. I have been gazumoed and gazunderednin my time. It is stressful - no doubt.
Is there any way you can divert your energies - at the moment they seem stuck in angry entitlement and total failure to accept any part
In what has happened. Use that energy to work with your dh and make a positive decision together.
I am about to put a house on the market - please god you don’t get involved with mine !

I disagree that renting is necessarily dead money in this situation.

We rented for 6 months when moving areas. We were able to sell our house for more than expected, as being chain free increased the interest from potential buyers. Then when we bought, being chain free meant we could negotiate a discount several times more than the 6 months rent.

It was definitely money well spent to ensure we could negotiate excellent deals on both transactions and didn't end panic buying a house we weren't quite certain about in haste.

Try to remain positive op, something will come up. I wouldn't go back to the house, go with your gut, you pulled out for a reason.

This is utterly incoherent!

How on earth could the vendor deny that the kitchen had been ripped out? It wouldn't be there any more?!

Why did removing a kitchen cause the floor to cave in?

Where was the dog shit? Who owns the dog? Shit can also be cleaned up.

Renting isn't dead money if it allows the sale of your house. Why would you need to eat into savings to rent? Can't you use your wages?

I'm not surprised that people are reporting this.

trapped2019 - you sound like you tend to lurch from one histrionic decision to another. Maybe a trip to the GP would be a good idea. This level of catastrophising and making snap decisions on hugely important issues before you have thought through the consequences is not within the norms of healthy thinking. Have you always been like this, or do you think you are excessively anxious at the moment?

Am I the only person who wants to know about the quantity of dog shit? So many questions!!

Had he always had the dog?

Was the dog there when you first viewed the property?

Was there dog shit there when you first viewed the property?

How much Dog shit was actually there when you went back? Where was it? Was the vendor gleefully trailing back and forth through piles of it, gaily kicking it up like water in puddles in Singing in the rain?

Because the way you are trying to sell us the scenario, it sounds like him moving a washing machine has caused the floor to collapse into a sewer like pit of dog shit that he's been keeping under the floorboards.

Or have I read this wrong??

Sets my teeth on edge when posters fall over themselves to mention 'drip feeding' and 'gaslighting'.

At least they mostly use the latter in the correct context.

Because I need a house. I'm prepared to swallow my pride for a decent life for my family.

Then just rent for six months.

You’ll be happy as you can remain calm and find a house you love. You also won’t be in a chain when you find the next house. You will be able to move very quickly and that will make you a very attractive buyer.

@LadyOfTheCanyon i feel the same way.

I have been quietly interested in the dog shit from the start. Always smelled a bit fishy to me even from this distance.

'everything happens for a reason'

And sometimes that reason is that you make bad choices.

@LadyOfTheCanyon 😂😂😂 this post had me laughing! I too would like to know the quantity of dog shit!

Given by the previous comments OP has made though, sounds like it could be maybe one little one and the exaggeration is real! 🤣

You could leaflet but you'd have to hope your ex-vendor doesn't find out and put the word to neighbours around that you've got form for pulling out last min. Another reason it makes sense to rent for a while and draw a line under all of this. Who knows, when you stop feeling so 'trapped', you may emerge much happier and more reasonable next time you come tobuy.

I may just be more worried about the doggies than the op. Hope they aren’t about to be homeless and have found a lovely new home - a dream home even.