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Dogs in coffee shops?

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fedupntired · 23/01/2019 10:45

Is this a thing now? I've previously seen dogs in clothes shops and today am in a coffee shop (which sells food) and two dogs have been welcomed with treats from behind the counter.
I own two dogs - but ew!

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Pissedoffdotcom · 25/01/2019 13:22

It's so funny to see some of the reasons people don't like dogs in cafes. They overlap perfectly with things small children do if their parents aren't on the ball. There's a common denominator...

Mercurial123 · 25/01/2019 14:05

80smum your description could almost apply to a young child.

TheRealShatParp · 25/01/2019 14:09

Dogs should be able to go everywhere.

berniebee · 25/01/2019 14:59

I will avoid these places when it’s just my partner/family going. It’s when you meet in a group that’s the problem or when your favourite place becomes dog friendly. That’s a bummer.

FrancisCrawford · 25/01/2019 15:55

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NicoAndTheNiners · 25/01/2019 16:06

I take my dog in shops and cafes inc Starbucks. She's not allowed in Costa though.

She's pretty much always off lead but walks to heel 2" behind me without been told. She goes under the table in cafes and sleeps. I've been sat next to people for an hour before who when I get up to leave are amazed to realise there's been a dog under the next table the whole time.

RatherBeRiding · 25/01/2019 16:10

Give me dogs any day over unruly children running around like it was a playground! Having said that, dogs in cafes should be well behaved, on a lead at all times, and sitting quietly.

Most dog-friendly places advertise the fact with a sign in the window. Don't go in if you don't want to see dogs.

Virtually all the summery tourist/walking places allow dogs in - they'd have far fewer customers otherwise.

If I'm on holiday or a day out with my dogs and there isn't a sign, I will always ask - never been turned away yet.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 25/01/2019 16:55

Dogs are smelly; often spitty and slobbery; usually hairy and possibly muddy and dirty and shouldn't be allowed in food service areas like cafés

As are many people.

I've seen some disgusting "manners" at table in public places - including a woman with a potty in her bag, who got it out for her toddler to use at the table and then just pushed the pot of pee/poo under the table while she finished hare coffee and continued talking to her friend! They had five young children between them, though only one voided their bladder/bowels, thank God - she got very shirty when a staff member was informed and asked her to dispose of the waste down the toilet ("But he's only three" etc)

People were eating, for heavens' sake!

CammieKennaway · 25/01/2019 19:03

I'm grateful for shops and businesses that allow dogs - my dogs mean a lot to me and are a huge part of my life as I am to theirs and although my husband and I wouldn't take our two Border Collies INTO a coffee shop, we appreciate those places that allow us to sit outside with our dogs.
We keep them on tight leads and don't allow them to jump around or bark - not that they've ever tried - they sit quietly by our feet and don't make a sound and stay that way until we leave.
I do get sick of the filthy looks we get off some people though for daring to grab a coffee and a sit down (which I often need as I have severe health problems) whilst we're spending time with the dogs we love and rescued.

Peanutss · 25/01/2019 19:26

Dogs are smelly; often spitty and slobbery; usually hairy and possibly muddy and dirty

A bit like a lot of children then?

Worldweary · 25/01/2019 21:48

I am also fed up of dogs everywhere and dog-owner entitlement. If a dog comes into a shop, I walk out. I won't stay in hotels that allow dogs. I know that shops are afraid to confront people with dogs, but there is no evidence that they help the high street. There is a direct inverse correlation to the rise of the dog population and the demise of the high street. I no longer go into coffee shops after seeing assistants stroke dogs and let them lick their hands, then turn round to serve me without washing them.

Pissedoffdotcom · 25/01/2019 22:02

I'd be interested to see those statistics regarding the demise of the high street versus the increase in dog owners. There was me and many others thinking that high streets are struggling because of the increase in online shopping...

WickedGoodDoge · 25/01/2019 22:05

I love dog friendly cafes! I wouldn’t bring my dog to one as going to a cafe means getting a break from my dog, but I love seeing other people’s dogs. Grin

adaline · 25/01/2019 22:07

know that shops are afraid to confront people with dogs, but there is no evidence that they help the high street.

Don't be so daft. Shops around here positively encourage dog owners to visit - they provide biscuits, water bowls and plenty of fuss. Often they have their own shop dog too. I've often looked after people's dogs for them while they shop/try on clothes/pay at the till, too.

Just because you don't like dogs in shops/cafes, doesn't mean the rest of the world agrees with you!

AntiBi · 25/01/2019 22:09

Walked into a pub restaurant the other night. The entire room stank of dog. It was well behaved to be fair but it did put me off my meal

Iwanthertoloveit34 · 25/01/2019 22:11

For all the people saying that those of us that object to dogs cafes could choose to go somewhere else. Dog owners on a chilly dog walk could choose to buy a travel mug and make themselves a coffee, drink it finish the walk, take dog home then go out for a coffee.
I object to dogs in cafes because I have a dog allergy therefore a dog's presence ruins my relaxing coffee break. I obviously believe that assistance dogs fall under a different category to the family pet.
There are also plenty of cafes that aren't family friendly all those objecting to kids in cafes could choose them.

Pissedoffdotcom · 25/01/2019 22:13

Non dog owners could also take their own coffee in a travel mug & find a nice bench somewhere for their coffee break...

Japanesejazz · 25/01/2019 22:25

My dogs often accompany me to cafes, coffee shops, restaurants and pubs. They are large dogs. The people on the next table only realise they are there when we enter or leave. Shame the same can’t be said for a lot of children

SchadenfreudePersonified · 25/01/2019 22:34

There is a direct inverse correlation to the rise of the dog population and the demise of the high street.

What a load of old cobblers!

EnoughSnowAlready · 25/01/2019 22:39

Likewise, customers who object to dogs in cafes can go elsewhere, to the many cafes that don't allow canines. Cafes that advertise themselves as dog friendly obviously want to attract dog owners so there's no reason for them to leave.

bicback · 25/01/2019 22:41

a lot of defensive 'whataboutery' from dog owners. yes, some kids smell/are noisy & annoying but don't change the subject. Not all but some specific dog breeds really smell (not going to list the ones as not necessary and owners would only say they don't although they would be used to it). I don't want to have a coffee sat at a table when there is a dog that smells nearby. Dogs often smell more once they have been outside too as do say someone that has smoked a cigarette outside (clothing seems to smell more). I also start to sneeze within about 5 minutes if i am near a dog, especially a long haired one. If i had a dog i know i wouldn't take it into a cafe. Entitled or what

adaline · 25/01/2019 22:41

I object to dogs in cafes because I have a dog allergy therefore a dog's presence ruins my relaxing coffee break

Then go to one of the millions of cafes that don't allow dogs!

SchadenfreudePersonified · 25/01/2019 22:49

There are also plenty of cafes that aren't family friendly all those objecting to kids in cafes could choose them.

I have NEVER encountered a cafe that refuses children. Some my make them more welcome in the sense that they provide little puzzle books and packs of crayons etc - but I don't believe that there is anywhere in the UK where you could go in with a child and be asked to leave before you had even sat down! Nowhere would a parent have to go in and ask "Do you allow children?". People take them everywhere, and often even on an evening children will be running about or shrieking or throwing tantrums and disturbing other diners. Not all children, obviously, but enough of them to make eating out an unpleasant experience a lot of the time.

I've never been anywhere that a dog has caused a problem for other people. And to be honest, I've never been anywhere where I could smell "dog", though I appreciate that some people may be very sensitive to dog hair and may still be affected by dogs they cannot see, or even are no longer on the premises. I have, however, been in more than one establishment where a small child has filled its nappy. And my word, we all knew about that! Grin

bicback · 25/01/2019 22:50

it's a bit shitty when your favourite local cafe that you have gone to regularly for a few years suddenly lets dogs in if you don't particularly like dogs. i get why people are pissed off about it. lots of people are quite protective of their chosen regular lunchtime haunt. i don't particularly like dogs although i'm quite happy to sit at a table with a dog near by if a/it is cute & b/doesn't smell/make me sneeze

mushlett · 25/01/2019 22:51

My favourite local pub not only welcomes my dog with treats but also has a designated area I can put my horse complete with hay and water 😊
All our local pubs welcome dogs. They would severely limit their clientele without allowing them. I do live in the country though, I don’t see many dogs in the nearest town.

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