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To think Brexit could make the country safer with better punishments

184 replies

TerriTummyTowels · 19/01/2019 10:10

Disclosure, I voted remain but today this story broke the camel's back as it were:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6608935/Ex-Westminster-public-schoolboy-strapped-naked-frame-caned-24-times.html#article-6608935

A British lad dealt drugs to his friends while in Singapore and now he's going to get 24 lashes while tied down. People in the comments say that Singapore is one of the safest countries in the world because people there are scared of the effective punishments.

So I'm starting to think one side benefit of leaving the EU is that we won't have to explain ourselves to anyone else if we decide to reintroduce similarly effective punishments?

Obviously people would need to support it but polls up until recently showed a slim majority in the UK supporting the death penalty for certain criminals so we could hold a referendum on these types of things.

OP posts:
MammaSchwifty · 19/01/2019 17:41

Haha! Oh dear.

PerkingFaintly · 19/01/2019 17:41

Second thread in a short period of time claiming that leaving the EU means we can reinstate the death penalty.

Why's that then?

So yeah, I'm with Piggywaspushed. You're just here to be goady, OP.

planespotting · 19/01/2019 17:43

Lost me at Daily Mail

PerkingFaintly · 19/01/2019 17:45

BTW, why do goady fuckers so often start with "I voted Remain but..."?

LeilaCat · 19/01/2019 17:47

Fuck me, how vile!

Pumpkintopf · 19/01/2019 17:47

Policy should never be decided by ‘if you look at the comments on the daily mail’

It’s a shame we didn’t apply the same logic to Brexit.

@EspressoButler , brilliant comment

countrygirl99 · 19/01/2019 17:51

Well, if middle east countries are so safe that's it decided- sharia law is the way to go!

Soubriquet · 19/01/2019 17:55

Oh my god this is horrific.

Yes he shouldn’t have dealt drugs but this is not an appropriate punishment

Buddytheelf85 · 19/01/2019 17:57

You didn’t vote remain, you bullshitter.

BackInTime · 19/01/2019 17:57

This is the same newspaper that regularly writes about outraged parents when a school dares to punish children for breaking uniform rules.

Thisonewilldo · 19/01/2019 17:57

Nothing to do with being in the EU.

I guarantee you that Brexit or no Brexit they will not introduce these types of punishments.

Agreements on the daily mail website don't stand for much.

Teapot13 · 19/01/2019 17:57

I'm just an ignorant American, but is there Brexit from Council of Europe as well? Or do they only care about death penalty?

Helmetbymidnight · 19/01/2019 17:58

This is like the person who thought once we brexitted we could bring back capital punishment.

What is the matter with people? Have they lost their brains recently?

PerkingFaintly · 19/01/2019 18:06

No, I think they've just had their pre-programmed message changed, Helmet.

Can't tell if the OP is a source or has merely picked up fleas from targeting of their Facebook account.

But it looks like someone is pushing the idea round "in the bloodstream of the internet", as that guy from Cambridge Analytica put it.

AldiLidlDeeDee · 19/01/2019 18:09

Have you ever been to Singapore? It's bloody boring as fuck. I was tearing my hair out after 3 days and couldn't wait to leave.
I certainly would not want to live in such a rigid type of society.

bellinisurge · 19/01/2019 18:10

Has this nonsense not been pulled yet?

AppleKatie · 19/01/2019 18:10

The problem with threads like this is they give credibility to nutters.

Literally nobody has agreed with the goady OP but it will be remembered and possibly reported that -
‘Some MNetters want Brexit so we can bring back public flogging’.

Mistigri · 19/01/2019 18:13

People who want to talk about Singapore style punishments online often have the same motivations as the people who come on here to talk about little girls having accidents.

Engage at your peril. OP won't be back.

PerkingFaintly · 19/01/2019 18:13

"I voted Remain, but here's a 'benefit' of Leave."

"I've always thought X, but now I've seen this video/product/article I think the complete opposite."

Both lines strangely reminiscent of the sales folk on here before the referendum.

(The latter – for reasons that surpass my understanding – seems a favourite of all salespeople. It must be one of those psychological effects that's proven to get sales.)

BlueCornishPixie · 19/01/2019 18:16

Human rights are just that human rights. You can't pick and chose who has them

This story is actually completely disproving your theory, the thought of thrashing and 20 years on prison did nothing to deter this man from dealing drugs.

I think people who believe in the death penalty are vile.

Helmetbymidnight · 19/01/2019 18:17

Op was on the other bloody thread and said this:

Oh believe me, nonsense like debating the death penalty is going to happen in parliament within 5 years the way things are going. The nutters are taking over "democracy"

Blimey, she changed her mind quickly!

PerkingFaintly · 19/01/2019 18:39

Also a strange shift in values from his/her comment on this thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/a3474655-to-wonder-why-people-still-holiday-in-volatile-countries#83989762

Burpsandfustles · 19/01/2019 18:43

Apple I think so too.

It's been written purely to promote the idea that leavers want the death penalty and flogging and that could happen once we leave.

It's puerile nonsense.

Helmetbymidnight · 19/01/2019 18:46

She’s been got at!!

They’ll be coming for us soon Grin

GCAcademic · 19/01/2019 18:51

Wtf has Singaporean punishment got to do with Brexit? Nothing.

Well, only a few weeks ago, our foreign secretary was singing the praises of Singapore, and saying that was the ideal model for post-Brexit Britain. He seemed to be talking about their economy, but perhaps he also had in mind inflicting death or disability through lashing. It’s hard to know the depths that we’re willing to plumb at the moment.