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'Everybody has a heart. Except some people,' Trump thread 90.

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lionheart · 19/01/2019 01:08

From Bette Davis, who was too canny to name names. Smile

Here is the old thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3458456-Shutdowns-military-pullouts-and-resignations-it-s-Christmas-and-Trump-thread-89?watched=1&msgid=84240445#84240445

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 25/01/2019 14:35

Meanwhile

Paul Manafort due in court to face allegations of lying to prosecutors
www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-manafort-mueller-hearing-20190125-story.html

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 25/01/2019 14:44

Amee Vanderpool
‏*@girlsreallyrule*
HEADS UP: There are 12 sealed criminal cases filed in DC District Court between 1/23-1/24. Some could be Paul Manafort and Roger Stone, but given that SC has asked this am in court filing to seal the Stone indictment, it's not likely him.

THERE ARE MORE. #MuellerFriday

twitter.com/girlsreallyrule/status/1088809495386574848

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 25/01/2019 14:52

Live tweet of Manafort's trial by Zoe Tillman here:

twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1088802157674065920

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 25/01/2019 15:07

How would CNN know that Stone was going to be arrested? I can't imagine they monitor him all the time just in case.

Wheeesht · 25/01/2019 15:15

CNN clearly had some reliable sources! Maybe the FBI, pissed off at not being paid, let something slip Wink

Roussette · 25/01/2019 15:20

theweek.com/articles/819270/time-shut-down-trump

Time to shut down Trump

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 25/01/2019 15:22

I feel a bit uncomfortable with that - don't know if I'm right to be and it's in fact a routine occurrence for arrests to be filmed live but with such a sensitive, serious investigation, it seems off for law enforcement to not adhere to confidentiality. Mueller's done a good job of not leaking, which is right, I think.

But perhaps this is misplaced and it happens frequently!

Wheeesht · 25/01/2019 15:26

Well once they're arrested the confidentiality part is no longer required, it's out there in the public domain.

Wheeesht · 25/01/2019 15:28

Laura Nahmias

@nahmias
People are suggesting CNN got tipped off by feds to Roger Stone arrest but I was watching @ShimonPro on CNN last night around midnight as he connected the dots on unusual grand jury activity Thursday and wondered whether arrests would come today. That’s Just good reporting.

6:30 AM - 25 Jan 2019

So maybe it was just really dogged and determined journalism and no tip offs.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 25/01/2019 15:29

Yes but they caught him being arrested, ie which would suggest they knew it was going to happen before he was actually arrested.

But as I said, perhaps they do keep an eye on the major players at all times or maybe it is routine for news orgs to be tipped off or any other reason that means it's fine - I don't know how it works!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 25/01/2019 15:30

Ha cross post - that makes sense!

Roussette · 25/01/2019 16:13

Jim Acosta posted on Twitter that it was just gut feeling and good journalism

Wheeesht · 25/01/2019 16:28

Whoever that CNN journo was they'll be feeling pretty chuffed with themselves.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 25/01/2019 16:33

For the record, he got his talking point from me and not the other way around Grin

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Greatest Witch Hunt in the History of our Country! NO COLLUSION! Border Coyotes, Drug Dealers and Human Traffickers are treated better. Who alerted CNN to be there?

Wheeesht · 25/01/2019 16:35

Oh he's freaking out! Grin

Roussette · 25/01/2019 16:36

Here is Jim Sciutto, National security correspondent for CNN firmly rebuffing any claims that the network was tipped off by the FBI or Mueller.

Jim Sciutto

Verified account

@jimsciutto
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More Jim Sciutto Retweeted Greta Van Susteren
No. Our reporters who cover this story everyday noticed unusual activity at Grand Jury and went to his home. That’s good journalism, which I know you respect. Not a tip. And anyone who covers Mueller knows Mueller’s office does not tip.

Wordthe · 25/01/2019 17:14

Border Coyotes, Drug Dealers and Human Traffickers are treated better
Why not just say that he doesnt deserve this treatment
Instead his mind goes straight to criminals, because he knows that's the category he belongs in

PerkingFaintly · 25/01/2019 17:26

Sooo, all that stuff about "Don't be too gentle when you put the arrested person in the cop car..."

I wonder how Stone, Manafort, Cohen, etc are enjoying their treatment?

AcrossthePond55 · 25/01/2019 17:34

Watching NBC live

Stone being loudly booed on. Can't hear him well (plus DH is yelling at the TV). Crowd now shouting "lock him up"

Here's what I can hear:

Falsely accused, no collusion, FBI "overkill, they should have called me". Had nothing to do with Russia. Will plead not guilty. "I will never 'bear false witness' against Scrotus". "Hasn't read indictment". "Politically motivated". Same ol', same ol'.

AcrossthePond55 · 25/01/2019 17:39

I was just struck with the irony of the arrest having been made by FBI agents who are not being paid.

Wordthe · 25/01/2019 17:47

BUILD THE WALL AND CRIME WILL FALL
it rhymes and it's in caps
it must be true :o

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 25/01/2019 17:57

Zuckerberg Plans to Integrate WhatsApp, Instagram and Facebook Messenger

www.nytimes.com/2019/01/25/technology/facebook-instagram-whatsapp-messenger.html

lionheart · 25/01/2019 18:03

Mueller is doing his thing and Trump is Trump. Smile

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lionheart · 25/01/2019 18:07

I didn't know there was a Nixon sign.

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