To ask if you’d vote differently if we had second referendum?

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I’ve read threads about how people would vote in a second Brexit referendum. But it’s more interesting - and more relevant - to know if many people have actually changed their minds. So, are there any “leavers” who would now vote remain and vice versa? What are your reasons?

No.

I'm living in Germany atm & didn't get a vote.

It's so frustrating that some who did didn't use it!

We will leave so all this talk is pointless

I very much doubt they'll be another referendum. There's not enough drive for it. It's still pretty much 50/50 so it'll solve nothing and still be borderline. What then? Labour even predicting leave would win a second ref anyway.

Strong labour areas voted to leave and in some of those areas the percentage was high to leave. Those MPs won't vote for a new vote.

I can't believe people are so easily happy to let politicians ignore a vote. If I was a vote to remain and they wanted to take us out surely you'd see it's just not right!

Voted leave and will do again if needed

The EU has turned into something that has changed since we voted to go in.
We did not ask for those changes or get voice in them.

Dione is right this sums up the real issue. If we get go with a deal or a more norway type of brexit this in effect is what we get. That type of leave gets us pretty much what many people voted to leave for.

Because we did have a voice. Here we wouldnt.

Thats the problem though because no deal Brexit could be catastrophic and at the very least could be very painful and no one knows what the gains if any would be

So where does that leave us really. Whatever happens at least half of the population wont want it. What option doesnt cause an unbreakable split because even if we did have a second referendum its still pretty much a 50/50 split

The initial referendum is at fault here it should never have been drafted in the way it was

Quartz2208

Its about 1/3 of the population that were eligible to vote that we know would be unhappy.

1/3 didn't say.

and the other 1/'3 is split so many ways that its hard to say how any of them feel.

I dont know why people are so scared of another vote . People will always vote the way they want to -giving people another vote isnt undemocratic. Its more democratic if anything because people now are armed with the facts !

There is no need for a second vote. I voted once and my choice remains the same

Boneyback yes I probably simplified.

But the key point still remains is that no decision/outcome is truly going to work democratically so where do you go. Its exactly why we are in this mess because NO ONE knows.

The time to give us the facts was before the vote! All parties said this was once in lifetime and would be acted on. Remainers have campaigned for a much softer Brexit -some of those policies go against the promises given by the leave party campaign - which people voted for so they can't be compromised too much to the point that it's no longer leave.

To start having second votes is setting a terrible prescedent

While I am for a second referendum, the thing that concerns me is most people still don’t really understand the issues. It isn’t a criticism or saying people are stupid, but it’s such a complicated scenario IMO it requires specialist knowledge that most people don’t have. To really understand the legal implications is beyond the average person. From hearing many MP’s speak, it’s sadly beyond a lot of them too. I know numerous leavers and the majority of things they say in support of their view are factually incorrect. That’s not to say remainers are all better, but it’s easier to argue for maintaining the status quo as it’s easier to do. Untangling decades of complex legal agreements is just too big a task to complete successfully especially seeing how this lot have gone about it, it’s embarrassing.

I'm still unsure why a second vote would be such a terrible thing if leavers are convinced they'd win again anyway. And if leavers lost a second vote it would just prove that leaving was not the current will of the people. So where's the problem? All this "it would be an affront to democracy" business is just bullshit. Either leaving is the will of the people, in which case you have nothing to fear from a second ref, or it is not, in which case a second ref serves democracy by making sure something the people do not want isn't forced through.

I voted remain and would vote remain again. I only know one person who has said they voted leave, and they would vote remain now. I'm in a strong Labour constituency (Labour safe seat) but most voted remain.

But a second vote is completely wrong out of principle! So if remain win what's to stop leave campaigning again?! And again! If you start with second vote it'll never end as it opens up to repeat and repeat votes. Surely people can see that. Remain campaign said it was once in a lifetime too. They gave people facts - said it would be difficult, screened poverty etc etc and people still voted for it!

I don't think pools mean anything as the last vote demonstrated but Let's not forget that the current poll difference is not that big - and leave aren't even campaigning now!!!

All we are hearing are the negatives from the remain side. With only one side pushing/ you'd expect a bigger division. If it came to a second ref and leave start campaigning then I'm guessing that's why leave is predicted to win again..

A second vote for anything after the biggest voting turn out in history is dangerous

If we don't act on leave this will be a manifesto pledge for the next 40 years and the country just divides further

All we are hearing are the negatives from the remain side

I honestly think that if the parties had genuinely joined to act on the vote we'd be in a much better position but many have just dug their heels in to stop leave - to stop what the public voted for. I live in a labour area tat voted heavily to leave. Our MP is pro remain. She will be out on the next vote if she doesn't support what her voters asked for. 2/3 labour voters support leave so they'll never push for second ref

There is an impass with brexit at the moment . Another vote would settle things once and for all.
If you buy on line -it arrives you dont like it -its not as described -you send it back. People change their minds all the time .
This is all our futures.

But it's o my been two years and there's nothing at all suggesting any significant change and they know this. So if we remain they'll be another push for sabot her vote in another two years 'in case people have hanged their mind'. Who says we stop at vote two? Why is vote two more representative than vote one?

Nothing to do with facts - facts were given at the time. Leavers just prioritised differently

Sorry for typos! Nicola sturgeon is doing same - if a result is close then they'll be a vote every couple of years and non will be acted on! So what's the point?

We can't trust the politicians to get the right deal so why not put that to the people? They've had almost 3 years and have got nowhere.

To stop the leavers banging on about a 2nd vote being un-democratic why not give the voters 3 options that are all based on leaving the EU. 1) the negotiated deal, 2) something along the lines of the Norway deal and 3) no deal?

There were veryfew facts but many lies .

Id agree with a leave deal vote but it should defo not have remain on the table.

But I don't think voters are educated enough on the subject to choose the type of deal. That's should be voted amongst those qualified I think. Many people don't even read the literature.

If you add a second vote for leave/remain it will never end. They'll always be an argument to say voters may have changed their mind.

Id agree with a leave deal vote but it should defo not have remain on the table

Why not? The original referendum was none binding. It’s was over 2 years ago and the country knows far more about the debate than they did then.
I think it’s very likely Leave will win again but at least let people vote on it.

A second ref is not the way to go in my opinion. On paper we would be voting on staying v leaving, in reality we would be voting on something different, the perception would be that we are re-running it because a proportion of the voting public didn’t like the first result (along with it seems a large proportion of MPs who had initially and overwhelmingly decided to let the people decide in 2016) and it would be campaigned i’m sure along those lines. It would make the campaigning that we had first time around pale into significance in terms of anger and division. Another GE will be bad enough.