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To ask if you’d vote differently if we had second referendum?

252 replies

Bizzle123 · 18/01/2019 21:02

I’ve read threads about how people would vote in a second Brexit referendum. But it’s more interesting - and more relevant - to know if many people have actually changed their minds. So, are there any “leavers” who would now vote remain and vice versa? What are your reasons?

OP posts:
Vicky1990 · 18/01/2019 23:46

The EU has turned into something that has changed since we voted to go in.
We did not ask for those changes or get voice in them.
There will be many more changes we will not have a voice in.
Some of these changes will be very foolish.
The EU has allowed ILEGAL entry to people that would do us harm into the EU territory.
France an EU member, and others have allowed free movement across Its territory of these illegal immigrants and allowed them to gather so as to illegally enter our country .
I did not vote for that.
But I have voted out and would do so again as our so called friends have failed to protect us and our way of life.
One of many reasons.

ThereWillBeAdequateFood · 18/01/2019 23:52

our so called friends have failed to protect us and our way of life

Any chance you could clarify that a little?

Cattus · 19/01/2019 00:02

Leave and leave again people- we’ve had nearly 2 miserable years, we’re a laughing stock and we don’t know how many years it will take to right this mess. How can you bear it?

user1511042793 · 19/01/2019 00:15

Voted leave and would vote it again.

DioneTheDiabolist · 19/01/2019 00:18

The EU has turned into something that has changed since we voted to go in.
We did not ask for those changes or get voice in them.

We very much did have a voice in the EU and unlike many other EU countries, the UK has the power of veto. It is factually incorrect to say otherwise.

KennDodd · 19/01/2019 09:16

I have lost a couple of friends over this and its caused a major split in my family. Brexit has exposed something in them that I really don't like, for instance ' immigrants should all fuck off home".

Jamiefraserskilt · 19/01/2019 09:30

No

Elfinablender · 19/01/2019 09:34

No, I'd still vote remain. But I'd have to fight the Imp of the Perverse to vote leave and watch everything go to shit. Blush

MissingGeorgeMichael · 19/01/2019 09:42

I also don't think Cameron should've been allowed to walk away from dealing with it either.

I met a number of people who thought the idea that the vote would go the way of leave was impossible. I suspect Cameron was one of them.

As for me, my vote would not change.

jophie80 · 19/01/2019 12:14

I am the same as 'EverlyNow', I didn't vote because I didn't think a majority would vote leave, given another chance I would definitely vote REMAIN.

As a BME woman I was enraged from the day of the result at the outcome, because for me it changed my life, I got racist abuse from complete strangers in the street after that vote, and I see the rise in attacks of Eastern europeans and other who don't look or sound English. So this referendum has directly affected my life on a day-today basis. In addition, I now look at England with a new perspective. One friend got offered a job recently in Cambridge and told me she would look at the voting outcome of local areas for Brexit to decide where she would look for an apartment, for fear of being racially attacked!
I am moving to Germany if we Brexit, which is easy for me as DH is German. And I am taking my elderly Eastern european mother with me.

Because I still feel enraged that so many people still believe in Brexit. This is ridiculous, nothing good will come of Brexit, not for the poor folk living in Mansfield, or Tottenham in London or other deprived areas. This entire referendum is a lie, its not even for the good of those racist English people, it's a manufactured crisis by the elites for their own personal economic gain, nothing else.

HerondaleDucks · 19/01/2019 13:39

It has definitely spiked a big increase in obvious racism. It makes me wonder if this is what people have been thinking privately all along. I'm 3rd generation, my grandad was invited here in the windrush era and I am more English than mixed race but with an obviously foreign surname I have noticed it too.
I'm really sorry you've gone through that @jophie80 it makes me really sad that we are going backwards and not forwards!

Harryo · 19/01/2019 13:45

I voted leave and would not be changing my vote.

MissingGeorgeMichael · 20/01/2019 08:07

As a BME woman I was enraged from the day of the result at the outcome, because for me it changed my life

Maybe you should have made the effort to vote then?

It's disgusting how you've been treated but you can't complain if you can't be arsed to tick a box on a piece of paper.

Wasitnotme · 20/01/2019 08:41

Yes I would. I voted remain now I would vote LEAVE.

TidyDancer · 20/01/2019 08:57

@HerondaleDucks agreed. I have friends in Wales and England who are Polish and they suffered horrific incidents in the immediate aftermath of the referendum. The result seemed (to some) to legitimise an undercurrent of xenophobia and it was heartbreaking to see what they went through (and continue to go through).

It's similar to what has happened in the US. Trump and Brexit have made it seem acceptable to air very questionable views because if you hold them, you believe you have been given legitimacy by 'your side' gaining an apparent victory.

Certainly not all leave voters (or trump voters for that matter) are racist or xenophobic. I'll never understand why they voted the way they did but I don't believe for a second that they all did so for bad reasons.

It's anecdotal of course, but amongst several people I know the veil has lifted and they do regret voting leave. I think if there was a second ref you'd potentially get a large percentage of abstainers or a significant swing to remain.

aquashiv · 20/01/2019 08:59

I would want to see the deal I was signing up to. It's bonkers that so many voted for something they had little idea of the outcome.

MissMisery · 20/01/2019 09:04

To all those saying they voted leave and would do so again... I understand that you can’t bare to lose face, but please PLEASE make sure you furtively tick the ‘remain’ box when it comes to a second vote yes?

Winnie2019 · 20/01/2019 09:17

I voted remain and would vote remain again if offered the opportunity. I'm genuinely worried for the future of our young people. David Cameron allowed a referendum without even considering what would happen in the event of a no deal situation. That man should go down in history as the leader who divided the country and took away the future of our children. Instead Teresa May will probably end up with that accolade.

I'm sick of reading pro Brexit crap on Facebook. I feel that those of us who voted remain no longer have a voice and should put up and shut up. After all only 48% of those who voted voted remain Hmm. Anyone would think it was only 3 of us!

It's too late for me and Dh we will have to live out our days in the UK. I'm strongly encouraging my children to think very wisely about their future career choices and to consider professions that give them the opportunity to gain international experience so they have the opportunity to leave in the future.

BoneyBackJefferson · 20/01/2019 09:33

MissMisery

what makes you think that there would be a remain box on a second referendum?

All this is speculation as is saying that people are only posting that they would vote remain again because they are scared of losing face.

In all honesty, I don't know how I would vote if there were another referendum because I don't know what the options would be.

catx1606 · 20/01/2019 09:35

I voted to leave and would vote to leave again.

PrickWhittington · 20/01/2019 10:22

I didn’t vote, which I regret massively in hindsight, but would vote to remain if I ever could.

PrickWhittington · 20/01/2019 10:28

Can I just make the point as well - can people please stop vilifying those who didn’t vote. IF it was as simple for everyone as ‘not being arsed to tick a box’ then fair enough, but there are often a myriad of reasons why people don’t or didn’t, that are beyond the ‘laziness’ that is usually assumed.

UserX · 20/01/2019 10:36

What we have messed up is the actual exit (understatement) We should have just left.

How would “just leaving” work? What are the practicalities StarUtopia?

Laylajaney · 20/01/2019 10:43

I voted remain and would again. I feel the deal we have is the best one . I f we do have to leave I hope we have a soft brexit. I feel no deal would be a disaster for businesses that rely on Europe for their business etc .

3WildOnes · 20/01/2019 10:52

I voted remain and would again.
Everyone I know who voted leave would do so again.
I think there probably will be a second ref but I think it will probably be leave again.

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