Duke of Edinburgh’s Road Accident

[SirGawain]

AIBU to ask why on earth is the Duke of Edinburgh driving at the age of 97.

She didn't have a different recollection. She lied. Her body language quite clearly showed she was lying

You really do think you know everything about everything don't you? You're so massively over invested in this, you're googling can seat belts be disarmed, just to back up HRH. You know what the palace will do as your job was it that area. You're a body language specialist and KNOW she's lying..... but you're not defending or saying that HRH is a belligerent old fool who should never be driving at the age of 97. It's just that everyone around him has set him up, nothing he does like disarming seat belts is illegal, because you've checked and know.

No you're not Sophie at all, far too much time spent looking at ways of defending HRH..... come on you're Kate aren't you?

So you can know that she lied? Maybe you should hire yourself out as a lie detector?
The truth is no one here knows what exactly happened.
What we do know is a 97 year old man was involved in a major crash. That a baby also involved was amazingly unharmed. That a female passenger broke her wrist in the crash. And that the police are investigating.

We also know the Royals have the money and power to shield themselves from random strangers who say nasty things about them. We know that a woman who is employed as a carer does not have the money or power to shield herself from nasty things random strangers say.

Charlie Perhaps BlueLady is a Royalist. Someone who will defend members of the Royal Family no matter what. I don't understand wanting to do that, but I have met a few people like that.

Maryi, I kind of get those (Royalists I mean) but it's the I KNOW what the palace will do, I KNOW the woman is lying, I've looked up about seatbelts and I KNOW he's not done anything illegal.. blah blah. It's going above and beyond thinking the Royals can do no wrong ... it's blinkered loyalty to the extreme and then trying to convince everyone else that they're being unrealistic.

Fact, 97 year old accident.... oh no I can't say that because Bluelady (so aptly named) knows different.

She'll definitely be on the next honours list.

About the seat belt.

It was reported that the DoE was hosting a pheasant shoot tne weekend after the crash.

When I have seen shooting parties they drive from place to place between fields and woods etc, hopping in and out of their Land Rovers.

I doubt many or any wear seat belts just as farmers don’t when driving on their land and in and out checking on things for example.

The Palace never if very rarely comment on or refute stuff said about them so it would be highly unusual for them to comment on whether he was on an estate road or public in the seat belt pic.

I am not a royalist,I am a republican I think they should be de-commissioned . I am against bloodsports.

I just don’t like slagging anyone off based on assumptions and speculation.

You can tell by her body language bluelady? Come on, that's ridiculous.

If he was on private land he was entitled to not wear a seat belt, yes. But still, you'd think that two days after causing a crash involving a ten month old baby and rolling your own car, and knowing your every move is followed by photographers, you might just consider following best practice and belting up.

When I was assaulted a gew years ago I described the man to the police as being six feet tall. When he was caught hours later he was about five foot seven. I wasn't lying, the mind plays tricks when it's just been through something traumatic, like for example a car crash.

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@StoneofDestiny , I get your point!

Obviously she was lying about it being cloudy. Fact, it wasn't.

Stop taking the piss out of other posters. You just look crap.

stone what are you doing?

Obviously she was lying about it being cloudy. Fact, it wasn't.

Were you there?

Stop taking the piss out of other posters. You just look crap.

No she doesn't! The ones that look crap are the one stating they KNOW everything! They can't debate they MUST be right.

Bluelady is like a dog with a bone, Googling stuff to say HRH is not in the wrong re seatbelt etc.

Come on admit it he's a bolshy old fool, who also won't be told he's wrong.

Charlie: the photos show it wasn’t wholly overcast. And more than one poster, and other witnesses in tne press, have reported a low sun that made driving very difficult.

even if it was sunny not overcast, that doesn't mean she was lying. People sometimes remember things wrong when they've had a nasty shock

Whether it was sunny as in sun in your eyes, would depend on the direction you were heading.

“even if it was sunny not overcast, that doesn't mean she was lying. People sometimes remember things wrong when they've had a nasty shock”

Which is a good reason not to talk to the media about any issue that could be under investigation. If I was the friend who was driving I would be very pissed offer with her for saying that they could see him at the junction from 150 yards away, for example.

There was a smash.
One driver has been vilified with his age and personality assumed to be the cause, and Widespread assumption that he will evade justice. One passenger has now unfortunately had her physical injuries compounded by readers of the gutter press accusing her of being thick, dishonest and compo-chasing.

Meanwhile the police and the insurance companies have the actual facts, everyone else is high on supposition.

So we have weather options ranging from clear blue sky to bits of blue sky in some pictures to not wholly overcast. And yet people are convinced the woman is lying based on her body language. Funny old world.

The attending police officers espically the road patrol ones will have noted the weather conditions at the time their trained to do that as often weather is a contributing factor in accidents.

If you've ever read AAIB or RAIB reports thay make particular note of environmental factors!.

Sure, she was ill advised to talk to the press. But she's a carer, not a job noted for its media training, and they probably bunged her a few hundred quid which given she's just lost her livelihood for a few weeks is probably welcome. Also the sadface media are notorious for twisting people's words.

Do I definitely know what happened? No. But of the two, the hugely pampered privileged man who in all likelihood caused the accident and the woman with the broken arm who is about to suffer financial hardship through no fault of her own, my sympathies are with her. And it's a talkboard, not a court of justice, so I'm OK with that.

She's had her letter now so I assume she will move on. She's had her 15 minutes of fame.

“And despite being a fan of the Royals, she won’t be displaying her letter at home. “

Having displayed it to the nation

However, I am glad she feels more at peace. It is miserable having your hand / wrist out of action

Good on her for shopping him to the press I say.

At least he seems to have admitted liability, that he pulled out in front of them?

Would that be classed as driving without due care and attention?

The police and the Courts, if necessary will decide the rights and wrongs

That's true in principle, but there's no way this will ever go anywhere near a court

Paul Burrell, anyone?