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user1471461798 · 16/01/2019 19:59

Just wondered what everyone’s thoughts on this was? 17 year old daughter dropped off at the bus stop at 6.44 this morning, she had lost her lanyard with her bus pass on, so was going into college to get a temporary pass, we knew it was at home somewhere. Got on, sat down, the bus driver then asked to see everyone’s pass.. Doesn’t do this every day- specific bus only for her college.( 1st stop in the morning, last stop at night). obviously she didn’t have it, explained and he told her to get off the bus, she asked if she could just go to college and get a temporary pass. ( I know this is true as her friend told her mother the same ).

She then had to walk over a mile in the dark and rain, We had all left for work. also she has a broken arm, so had to carry bags as well. We have asked for an explanation from both the bus company and college, no reply from coach, but college have said the driver was correct!
I feel the coach company had a duty of care to make sure she was safe. What is everyone’s thoughts please?
Maybe a while getting back to everyone, going to the cinema now😊

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BitOutOfPractice · 17/01/2019 09:44

That'll teach her to look after her lanyard better won't it?

Honestly is this is the most precious 17 yo in the world? You sound ridiculous OP, an I speak as someone who is quite soft with her teenage kids

If she had explained at the outset and asked for his help, he would probably have been more sympathetic

Also this. She should have spoke up sooner.

BitOutOfPractice · 17/01/2019 09:45

And I wonder why she didn't say to her mate "take these bags to school for me please and I'll collect them later when I get there"

She doesn't sound like she's got much common sense!

BitOutOfPractice · 17/01/2019 09:46

*spoken

RiverTam · 17/01/2019 09:46

How does the bus driver know that she hasn't been expelled, her pass taken off her and she is going back to college with stink bombs or worse?

or, more likely, he could have believed a girl he sees every day on this not-crowded special-bus-for-this-college-only that she's lost her pass.

chocolatemademefat · 17/01/2019 09:48

Barbarian mum thanks ever so much for stating the obvious. Maybe if you have a moment you could use it to get over yourself.

ambereeree · 17/01/2019 09:50

He is only doing his job. For all he knows no pass means your DD has left college therefore is abusing the bus service.
Anyway at least she won't misplace pass again.

worridmum · 17/01/2019 09:53

I used to work in a company that if you had no ID you did not gain access to the work site. Is it jobsworth if ian the sercuirty man at front gate whom knew me let me onto the company property with my work id? (It would class as gross misconduct and he would be summary fired).

People on here would call him a jobsworth but why should someone risk there job to be 'kind'. In the case above i drove home to get my id 1.5 hours away so i lost a days pay to collect my id badge and had to 7 and half hours driving that day.

I did not call ian a jobsworth cunt because if he had looked the other way he would lose his job and i would not willing risk my job to be 'nice or kind' to someone.

(Ian is not his real name but i had worked there for 3 years and he had known me for the vast majority of the time) it was a clostly mistake on my part and no way do i think for one second i am entilted to him risking his job due to my stupidly.

BitOutOfPractice · 17/01/2019 09:53

Crikey chocolatemademefat! Who rattled your cage? Why so nasty to a poster who posted something 300 posts ago that dozens of others have said,

Waspnest · 17/01/2019 09:55

In our area it's the LA who make the rules regarding school transport so I doubt the bus company care who gets on the bus (DD has had her pass checked just once this school year, presumably the LA ask the bus company to do occasional spot checks to make sure sixth formers have paid for passes). I'm surprised the college/LA are fine with the OP's DD missing a day of college just because of a missing pass. Presumably our LA does care because they have a system in place; if someone loses their pass, they have to apply to the council for a replacement and get a temporary one from the school office. They accept that a student has to get to the school to do that.

Hannahmates · 17/01/2019 09:59

YABU. You knew she didn't have her pass on her. You should have prepared better for her. Given her some cash. The bus driver doesn't have to give your daughter an exception.

ginpink · 17/01/2019 10:00

Imagine:

Child brings knife or gun into school one day.
School expelled child and removes pass.
Angry child gets on bus next day claiming she's lost her pass.
Bus driver let's her stay (even though it's his job to check for passes)
Angry girl kills all on bus.

Yes unlikely (but happens every day in the US.)

Imagine the threads about he bus driver now

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 17/01/2019 10:00

Our 6th formers aren’t allowed into the place unless they have their lanyards on.

However 6th form are subject to the same Safegaurding standards as the younger pupils. So, there is some duty of care there.

My ds never had his bloody bus fare it would drive me nuts.

ShadyLady53 · 17/01/2019 10:02

@BitOutOfPractice given that the college is an hour and a half away and her only means of transport refused to take her, surely that would mean she didn’t get in to college at all. Why would she send her bags ahead when she didn’t know how or if she was going to get to college?

bengalcat · 17/01/2019 10:04

There are some mean responses on here . He could have used his common sense and discretion and allowed her to travel after her explanation . I would’ve been upset if that was my daughter ‘ chucked off she bus ‘ light or dark and with a broken arm - is it in plaster ?

BitOutOfPractice · 17/01/2019 10:05

Fair point shady I assumed sh'd gone home to get a lift / get some money to catch a different form of transport because that's what my DD would have done in that situation. But we know all about assuming don't we? Wink

Waspnest · 17/01/2019 10:07

(but happens every day in the US) Really? Hmm

RiverTam · 17/01/2019 10:08

gin but in your scenario the child has already brought a weapon into school as a legitimate pupil, he could have been lanyarded up to the eyeballs and still gone on a killing spree. And doesn't stand up in this instance even more because the bus driver doesn't always check for passes - which suggests he's only a jobsworth when he feels like it.

Hannah the OP has said there's no option to pay cash on the bus.

Wasp sounds like your LA has got sensible options in place. Probably not run by an MNer Grin.

FrancisCrawford · 17/01/2019 10:10

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Samcro · 17/01/2019 10:11

why is it if you don't agree with op your a GF?
the responsibility for this all lies with the 17 year old young woman.
she was the one who didn't have her bus pass.
calling the driver a jobsworth is unfair. he has to follow rules, same as his passengers.
this is not a school bus. and we are talking about a young woman who should be able to follow simple rules.

Waspnest · 17/01/2019 10:12

RiverTam indeed! Grin Especially not a MNer on AIBU.

ginpink · 17/01/2019 10:13

@Waspnest yes. Admittedly not this exact scenario (thought that went without saying) but school shootings are so common they don't even get reported over here anymore unless they are particularly high death counts

ShadyLady53 · 17/01/2019 10:13

@BitOutOfPractice the OP said, on page 10, that she missed a day of college as she couldn’t get there. There was no one to drive her and no alternative mode of transport due to the rural location.

ArnoldBee · 17/01/2019 10:14

So reading the update it's the fault of the 17 year old for not having everything prepared and ready for college before leaving the house.

Waspnest · 17/01/2019 10:15

I thought it was school bus Confused. Have I misunderstood? I thought the OP said it was a college bus.

ginpink · 17/01/2019 10:16

@RiverTam then the op made the wrong complaint. Passes should be checked every day from every passenger, not just when the driver feels like it.

Rules like this although can be a pain are for the safety of the children. It is not the drivers responsibility or concern to know why she didn't have a pass. By allowing people on who do not have a pass is putting the students at risk.