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to think that May should resign

260 replies

brizzledrizzle · 16/01/2019 19:18

They survived the confidence votes but only by 19 votes. Surely she should go now?

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Bluntness100 · 16/01/2019 21:07

I don't want anybody to finish Brexit for us, finish it off for good maybe but not finish the process

Sure, but someone has to do it, so if not her, who? As much as you or anyone else doesn't like it, some one has to do it, someone has to finish it one way or another, and don't kid your self any of the boys want to step up and do it instead.

So if not her, who?

Justanotherlurker · 16/01/2019 22:02

Sure, but someone has to do it, so if not her, who? As much as you or anyone else doesn't like it, some one has to do it, someone has to finish it one way or another, and don't kid your self any of the boys want to step up and do it instead.*

No one wants to finish it off including Corbyn. Even the most sane politicians thinking that cancellation or kicking it into the long grass is disastrous shows what a shit show this all is.

Gobolinocat · 16/01/2019 22:07

I'd have more respect for for corbyn if he had agreed to put things aside and go and meet her. She had pretty much just challenged him too.

SillySallySingsSongs · 16/01/2019 22:08

Well she has just announced she is holding meetings with party leaders and MPs accross parties.

Corbyn is the only one who has refused to take part. Now who is playing party politics. Hmm

Bluntness100 · 16/01/2019 22:09

She looks absolutely and utterly fucked, I honestly don't know how that woman is still standing. I really don't.

Gobolinocat · 16/01/2019 22:12

This should have been 2 half years ago.
Corbyn needs to get his sorry arse in no 10 and thrash this out but the irony.

The brexiteer and the remainer.

Unfinishedkitchen · 16/01/2019 22:13

FFS I can’t stand Corbyn. However, how can people fall for her clear attempt to divert blame to him? He’s clear and I agree that ‘No Deal’ must be off the table. We cannot leave with no deal. If he helped negotiate and it ended in no deal, I guarantee you, the media would find a reason to blame him for it and he knows it. Maybe if the media didn’t attack so much, he would be more willing to step up?

Gobolinocat · 16/01/2019 22:14

Taking blame is something politicians bear. Its the nature of the beast.
Getting deal from eu we have to show we would do a no deal.

AuchAyeTheNo · 16/01/2019 22:15

I really don’t think she should go and I don’t think she’s making a mess of it. In all honestly what can she do? She didn’t want this, it was David Cameron who put us in this mess and she’s trying her hardest to fix it.

I think she’s doing great considering,

Bluntness100 · 16/01/2019 22:16

Maybe if the media didn’t attack so much, he would be more willing to step up?

Yeah, it's the media's fault he doesn't want to be prime minister 🤣

Boom76 · 16/01/2019 22:17

Corbyn needs to go. The fact he’s still there shows it’s Momentum/McDonnell propping him up.

Justanotherlurker · 16/01/2019 22:17

I'd have more respect for for corbyn if he had agreed to put things aside and go and meet her.

He is wanting no deal to be removed, the problem then arises with that is accepting FOM which underpins neolibralirasim so causes conflicts in ideolgy for both the conservatives and labour.

Side not though, Macron can do one as he is Thatcher 2.0

SillySallySingsSongs · 16/01/2019 22:17

Unfinishedkitchen Here is a wild idea. How about he stops setting himself up.

Don't continually complain about her not talking to others and then when she does, refuse to do so when every other party is. It makes you look inept and rather daft.

Justanotherlurker · 16/01/2019 22:20

Maybe if the media didn’t attack so much, he would be more willing to step

Oh dear, I can't believe someone has posted this unironically..

Dongdingdong · 16/01/2019 22:25

I’m disgusted that Corbyn is putting his own personal interests above those of the country, by refusing to meet Theresa May for talks unless she rules out no deal. How is she supposed to do that exactly? If there’s no consensus by March 29th then there WILL BE no deal. But perhaps that’s what Corbyn not so secretly wants?

I used to quite like him, but he’s proved himself to be a total snake. So angry right now.

Yabbers · 16/01/2019 22:25

But it should be time for Corbyn to go... he has lost, she has won.
And she keeps on winning.

She took the leadership after Cameron left, those who might have stood against her knew they wouldn’t win.

She was pushed into a GE, ran what is probably the worst GE campaign sent her lackey out to do the talking whilst she said nothing, all against Corbyn who was said to have run the best campaign ever. She still won (but media pretended she had “lost” and he had “won”

She won her party vote of no confidence and now had presided over a government win of confidence.

People bleat on about democracy and how it’s important but after 4 fair and square attempts to oust her democratically she is supposed to resign?

I have no strong feelings about her, but you don’t change your manager 20 minutes before the final whistle. She needs to see the negotiations through and bring this catastrophe to a close so we can get on with what’s next.

noodlenosefraggle · 16/01/2019 22:26

I think negotiating this shit show would have been a disaster for anyone. She has negotiated a deal that the 27 countries have agreed to. Ireland are the ones who want the backstop, our closest ally in the EU. The chances of the EU throwing one of their own members under the bus is highly unlikely. She should have opened doors to other leaders straight away, and maybe had a government of National Unity. The problem is, both her and Corbyn are too pig headed to put their differences aside and work together intelligently. They have been playing games for 2 years, and now at the last minute, she's talking to other parties? Why couldn't they have done this before they went to negotiate with the EU? Surely 2 years ago was the time to say 'we want the best negotiators of any party on our side' rather than pissing about with general elections and Confidence votes?

Unfinishedkitchen · 16/01/2019 22:31

As I said I’m not a fan of Corbyns politics and believe he’s been terrible for Labour. I want a David Milliband or even Tony Blair back. However, its clear that the media attack and twist everything he says. They have played a huge part in making the opposition ineffective. Whatever he does, he will be blamed. Therefore he can’t just jump at the chance of joining a a cross party committee without at first being overly cautious he’s not walking into a trap.

The media and Tory party have attacked him so much that he probably doesn’t believe he’s not being set up to hold the bag of shit at the end once the music stops during pass the parcel. Trying to kill the opposition has harmed us all.

madeyemoodysmum · 16/01/2019 22:31

Corbyn is nothing but a self serving opportunist.

If he really cared about the Uk he would put his ambition aside and work for the good of the country. All he ever does is moan about brexit. But does he ever put his ideas across? NO he doesn’t.

I can’t stand him and I know of no one in real life who would actually vote for him.

Gobolinocat · 16/01/2019 22:32

Tm has been steering a course through this.

Corbyn steers a course of distention and disruption which is the same course he has steered all his political career.

It just so happens he has found himself in opposition at a critical point, on something he secretly desires!

The frightening thing is people talk about the tories wanting to rid us of the eu to dismantle working rights etc, but it's corbyn et Al who wants to get rid of the eu to dismantle our country for their own ends.

TheGlitterFairy · 16/01/2019 22:34

The referendum isn’t / was’t legally binding so they could have stopped the shit show at any point in the last 2.5 years....madness

Bluelady · 16/01/2019 22:35

Absolutely she should go. She's the most incompetent PM of my life rime and I'm old enough to have voted on Europe the first time round. She got the leadership by default, sat on her hands for more than two years, lost her majority through a completely unnecessary general election and has a cabinet resignation every other week. She's completely useless. And has destroyed the country.

noodlenosefraggle · 16/01/2019 22:35

Agree no deal is one of our bargaining chips. Taking it off the table means we lose that.
I do wonder if Corbyn has shot himself in the foot with it too. Most Labour constituencies voted leave. Anecdotally, it looks like a great many Leavers want a no deal. To say that he wants to make that impossible would probably cost Labour a huge amount of votes. Who knows where they would go?

Gobolinocat · 16/01/2019 22:45

I didn't realise most labour constituency voted leave.

If all this collapses it will be back to ukip again I suppose. Round again.

Another ref or vote of any kind would be vicious.

Bluelady · 16/01/2019 22:50

How is no deal a bargaining chip? If we left with no deal the EU would just say "Well, off you fuck, then".