AIBU to be angry that this is still happening!

[CosmicCanary]

Bristol News

I know this is not the only girl this has happened to. I know there will be many many girls who have suffered the same humiliation in school just today.

I was one of them many years ago.
So many times i bled through my pad in lesson but I knew asking to go to the toilet in would be met with a NO so i didn't bother. It was a humiliation in its self for the whole class to know you needed the loo. Such a public audience for an other wise private act.

I have already told my DDs should they need the toilet they must ask but if refused walk out of lesson if they absolutely cannot wait and I will deal with school.
They will not suffer the humiliation and shame of leaving blood on a school chair as I did.

It appears MNHQ disliked your comments about how you treat children Jac

They probably think it's the pee troll.

I never thought of that!!

Pee troll seemed to have time to post on here yesterday. Odd when her teaching regime is so tight that no-one involved can be permitted to use the toilet.

Or perhaps she is suffering from UTI after having used her break to post instead of going to the toilet....

I am pleased that poster was a troll. I hated the thought of somebody so cruel teaching children.

Oh dear, OP. People are allowed to disagree with you. No need for such tantrums and nastiness. You my be wrong. Some of us think you are.

Stop frothing now and calm down.

You are about 4 days too late.

Just loving the last word, eh?

Yep

So predictable. One of "those" parents. I'll leave you to your smugness, dear.

Oooh what are "those" parents?

Those parents are unpleasant, ignorant, self-important types who are the cause of much hilarity in the staffroom.

@CosmicCanary

I think jacomax has had a name change.

I thinkjacomaxhas had a name change.

I think you are correct

Lucky I am not one of those parents then cheese 👍

No name change. You are wrong again. But being one of those parents you will never admit it.

But being one of those parents you will never admit it.

I am not sure why being one of those parents is so wrong in your view.
An 11 yo girl has bled through her clothing twice because of a blanket rule that lazy schools enforce in a lame bid to combat bad behaviour. All it does is strip girls of their dignity and force them in to humiliating situations. I am angry at that and I will do all I can to ensure my DDs are never put in such a situation by adults who believe controlling a persons toileting needs is a positive rule with no negative outcomes.

I have never said it was right.

Your over-the-top near hysteria on the subject is what I see as wrong, even when people have explained their school's situation to you with more patience than your attitude deserves.

Yes, you really are the sort of parent teachers dislike and have zero respect for. But carry on if it makes you happy.

On this thread there have been a few people saying that they are teachers and commenting in a very harsh vindictive way intending to upset parents. Unable to see that the situations they were working in were quite different, and refusing even to acknowledge that there might be a problem.

When I started school, teachers often hit us with rulers. They didn't think they were wrong, and became extremely defensive when anyone suggested that it was poor practice to hit children before checking whether the child had a problem. Fortunately standards have improved (I think).

I'm hoping standards might improve in this respect too. Just because a teacher experiences poor employment practice and has no way to get cover for urgent toilet access doesn't mean that it is fair enough to inflict the same on young children in their power.

It isn't the teachers, it's the headteachers who make the rules. Toilets are often locked. What do you suggest teachers do?

What we were trying to do was discuss the problem. A number of people volunteered that it caused their children anxiety and health issues. Some teachers mentioned that toilets were often locked because of bullying and vandalism. Others thought that it was not fair to punish the vast majority of well behaved pupils by locking toilets.

It was starting to be a good discussion of the various aspects involved until a few people started claiming that because teachers are not allowed to use toilets, children shouldn't be allowed to.

A number of people mentioned that their schools manage to keep toilets available by managing bad behaviour. Perhaps we could get them back to give more advice on this? I would guess that this is the way to go.

I have just rehomed two dogs. When they first arrived, they made a mad dash for any door that was opened. Probably they had been kept locked in a room for long periods. Now they are in an open plan downstairs, they have realised that there is no necessity to focus on getting out, so they are quite happy staying where they are. I suggest that it might be similar with children needing the toilet. The more you try to enforce limitations? The more some children will try it on. Unfortunately, other more timid or law abiding children will just be distressed.