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If there was another Brexit referendum would you vote the same way?

523 replies

marmeladerose · 14/01/2019 20:26

By the way I am not for another Brexit referendum but I am seeing a lot about it on the news/social media and it got be wondering what everyone would vote if it did happen and what did you vote before? I voted remain and would vote remain again.

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Hoppinggreen · 15/01/2019 12:18

seenna would you genuinely vote Leave “on principle” despite the fact that presumably as you actually voted Remain you don’t want to us to leave The EU?
That’s crazy

seenna · 15/01/2019 12:18

And just divide our country even further.

Housingcraze · 15/01/2019 12:19

Remain all the way!
Friends who voted will now vote remain as well!

User758172 · 15/01/2019 12:20

@seenna

Same here.

Jitters22 · 15/01/2019 12:21

Leave then and leave now.

User758172 · 15/01/2019 12:21

@Hoppinggreen

If the result of the first is not respected, why respect the result of the second?

BrazenHusky74 · 15/01/2019 12:28

Agree with seenna

I didn't bother to vote first time. Now I would vote leave. The people were given the choice, they voted, the government should act. Anything else makes a mockery of democracy. Any MP in a leave constituency not supporting Leave should resign if they feel unable to support what they were asked to do.

If it comes to a general election I will spoil my ballot paper rather than vote for any of the current bunch of mishaps.

Very much doubt if my vote means anything to anyone if votes are so easily ignored. Not left with much faith/trust in our government.

seenna · 15/01/2019 12:29

In my opinion, a 2nd referendum undermines the very basis of democracy as it suggests that rule by the majority is an insufficient condition for democratic legitimacy- potentially undermining all future political decisions.

Housingcraze · 15/01/2019 12:30

Admittedly I feel we should leave due to democracy and we should allow Scotland and Northern Ireland to remain! Some how without losing either of them to become independent- impossible I know!

ButterflyOfFreedom · 15/01/2019 12:31

Remain then, remain now

ButterflyOfFreedom · 15/01/2019 12:32

First time round I'd say not many people really knew what they were voting for or what the consequences would be. We were lied to (think NHS bus) so now we know more, wouldn't another referendum now be fairer?

Hoppinggreen · 15/01/2019 12:33

While I agree with some of these “principles” I don’t think that any of them are worth what the end result of Brexit will be.
Voting Leave will not teach our government/Junkers/The EU anything other than the fact that we would rather be right smug while watching our country burn (metaphorically)

Mymycherrypie · 15/01/2019 12:36

That’s exactly what I mean Hoppinggreen.

Leave on principle is exactly the same as just leave. Voting Leave to stick it to the man etc, it’s all just piss balling about. The end result is leave and if you don’t really want that, don’t sodding vote for it!

MrsAriadneOliver I agree with you, there must be deeper reasons for the anger. For some (the ones who have spoken about it with me) it dates back to the Thatcher years and the chance to buy their own homes, loving and working for those homes for all these years, then having a refugee come along and take the next door for “free”. When they really wanted their white friend to have it but he didn’t have enough points. You know, because he has a nice enough job, family, savings and a car and he’s not a refugee with absolutely nothing. He deserves a better life because he works. Being a good worker is the ultimate end game. They’ll even praise Eastern European colleagues if they happen to be a good worker but they wouldn’t want their daughter to being him home and so on...

This was endemic before the vote though. Since I was small, I have always heard language like this. The vote has just given it more of a voice. I am considered a “Muslim lover” and a communist because I didn’t vote leave.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 15/01/2019 12:37

Remain and would vote Remain again

But I don’t agree there should be a second referendum both sides with just up their game on scare tactics

Eatmycheese · 15/01/2019 12:53

@seenna no; Parliament is sovereign not the results of a referendum. They a merely a recommendation which could have - and on the basis of misrepresentation and hokum - should have been ignored. May was a fool to blindly go down this alley.

To suggest otherwise is more damaging to the notion of democracy.

I don't really want another referendum despite being a Remainer. I want parliament to work to stop this country being more damaged by this than it already has. May should be looking down the barrel of a gun because this is what democracy in action should look like.

ElsieMc · 15/01/2019 12:53

Leave then, leave now. DH remain and remain again. But he really wants to leave but is scared of the mess.

Eatmycheese · 15/01/2019 12:55

@BrazenHusky74 I would repeat largely what I just wrote to @seenna, but also add that if you would spoil your ba,lot paper rather than "vote for any of the current mishaps" why do you have any confidence in this current sorry excuse for a government's actions?

BorisBogtrotter · 15/01/2019 12:56

I dislike the democracy arguments from leave voters, mainly because when the UK parlimentary process turns up a result they don't like they accuse everyone of being traitors. The same with British judges rulling on British laws, when it doesn't go in their favour they call others traitors.

Eatmycheese · 15/01/2019 12:58

Perhaps some are singers would have indicated a preference for Leave if there were aspects of the EU they would have happily jettisoned or things they would sacrifice for benefits which could be articulated.

But if you ask the ludicrous question that Cameron quite deliberately put to the public then that is not possible.

I am quite willing to accept that some people wanted to Remain for spurious reasons, as I am quite willing to accept some wanted to Leave for well thought out and judicious reasons. But which error of judgement is potentially the most catastrophic for our country now?

Eatmycheese · 15/01/2019 12:59

*some Remainers. Not singers. Though not mutually exclusive of course

OutPinked · 15/01/2019 13:00

Remainer till I die 👊🏼

Racecardriver · 15/01/2019 13:01

It depends on the wording of the referendum. If it’s in or out I would still vote out. If it is in/no deal/x agreement then that would be different.

Racecardriver · 15/01/2019 13:03

*the reason why I would still vote to leave is that nothing has changed reaffirming my belief that it’s better to leave before the eu collapses. In an ideal scenario the EU would have reformed after the brexit vote (they should have before quite frankly). And then Britain would have voted again to stay. But unsurprisingly that hasn’t happened. It’s very sad. The EU was such a wonderful idea but in practice it’s the very opposite of what was originally conceived. What a waste.

user1486250399 · 15/01/2019 13:03

Remain then and now.

Don't know anyone who would change their vote, whichever way they voted.

I do know 3 Leave voters who have since died of old age.

I know at least 8 kids who were 16/17 who were frustrated they couldn't vote (Remain). They are old enough to vote now.

I also know 1 person who didn't vote as he couldn't be bothered but was pro Remain so regretted it.

bigdayinpolitics · 15/01/2019 13:04

Remain, remain, remain until the day I die Sad