If there was another Brexit referendum would you vote the same way?

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By the way I am not for another Brexit referendum but I am seeing a lot about it on the news/social media and it got be wondering what everyone would vote if it did happen and what did you vote before? I voted remain and would vote remain again.

@botisbogtrotter you must see the distinction though? The referendum was a form of direct democracy whilst parliament is a representative democracy. Maybe they are actually pro direct democracy? You cannot equate a referendum result with parliament. They are two very different forms of democratic process.

100% remain then, 100% remain now.

I can't respect the result of a referendum that was less to do with the future of the country and more about a Cameron vanity project to protect his premiership. Nor one where one side lied so extensively, even admitting almost immediately afterwards that one of their key pledges was a lie, and where most of the key politicians for Leave were campaigning in their own self interest, be that political or personal/financial.

@eatmycheese arguably we are in the process of forming a new political convention which has as much cobsitutional legitimacy as the sovereignty of parliament. The sovereignty of parliament has never been absolute. The constitution tempers parliament through convention and the separation of powers. Whether the referendum is adhered to or not is of constitutional importance. It will set a precedent for future referendums and the future of direct democratic processes in the United Kingdom. If parliament chooses to disregard the referendum the implications will be more far reaching than just brexit. Not an immediate problem (and one that I think could be reasonably eliminated by having a second referendum) but something that politicians should be considering as well.

"The referendum was a form of direct democracy whilst parliament is a representative democracy"

But the arguments for leaving the EU were that the EU was undemocratic and we wanted to give control back to our parliament.

This is what undermines the democracy argument, you can't claim you want it, but only when it does what you want.

The same as British judges making British laws, you can't claim it only when it does what you want.

Many, many leave supporters have done exactly this.

It nullifies that argument.

Don’t know anyone in real life who voted leave who has changed their mind either.

I only know 5 people who voted leave (well, 5 who own up to voting leave!). Three of them changed their minds very soon after an bitterly regretted it.

MIL would still vote leave. Her solution to the Irish border issue is for us to make ROI rejoin the UK, so that they have to leave too...

@scaryteacher

Absolutely! few of the general population had the knowledge required.

i am a firm believer in accountability of Parliament, we elect MPs, they decide, we then judge them on their 5 years of tenure.

A irreversible decision that is so vital and important to the UKs future should be left to the Gov of the day,
Lets just say you are wrong and leaving the EU leads to chaos, even the return of the iRA... who the fcuk is to be held accountable for this? no one at all! Certainly not the 5m to 8m people who can vote but are functionally illiterate in the UK.

I agree the EU is fluid, as is the rest of the world, so a FTA with India or Brazil could lead to an increase in work Visa's, no one in 2016 was told that.

"Arguably we are in the process of forming a new political convention which has as much cobsitutional legitimacy as the sovereignty of parliament. "

Nope we aren't. This is in your head.

Whether the referendum is adhered to or not is of constitutional importance." It will set a precedent for future referendums and the future of direct democratic processes in the United Kingdom."

Actually I think most future referendums will be avoided, or have extremely strict criteria for change to be acted upon.

" If parliament chooses to disregard the referendum the implications will be more far reaching than just brexit. "

Parliament can do this, and Parliament IS sovereign.

@Racecardriver just because something has not happened before shouldn't mean it doesn't happen now though.
I feel that the conventions of our constitution and the sovereignty of parliament have never been set a better test than Brexit.
If it means that in the future my own preference is once again overlooked in a referendum in the future then I consider that - right now at least - a price worth paying if this monumental farce and potential tragedy for this country and future generations should not come to pass. I can not think of anything more significant for millions of current and future lifetimes.

That is not to say I think the EU is perfect. Who could?

Genuinely i don't fucking know!!!
Its all such a bloody mess, i didn't like David Cameron's "I've got us a brilliant deal, but I'm not going to share any of the details with you"
and i don't like feeling like the EU is holding us to ransom and not letting us leave.
None of this is good, none of this seems a good option.
Its just an absolute bloody mess

Am not entitled to vote in the UK but would be 100% remain. No leave voter has been able to provide any benefits of leaving. Although I’ve lived in the UK most of my life, we have now decided to move elsewhere.

Leave then and would vote leave now

Remain then, remain now. My in laws voted Leave then and if there's a second referendum, they say they will vote Remain.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a second referendum.

Remain. Remain.

The "divorce settlement" is simple contractual obligations. Pensions, wages, project completion.
If the UK refuses to pay, everybody will label it a bad debtor.

I think it's really misleading to call it the "divorce settlement" tbh. Imo, it's more akin to paying off the mortgage when you sell the house: it's money the UK pledged to pay, you can't just terminate the payments early because you've gone off the idea, any more than you can cancel a Sky subscription when you've agreed to be locked into it for a year.

Voted to remain then and would make doubly sure that I would vote in a second referendum, and vote again to leave.

It does occur to me, however, that of the undemocratic nature of a perhaps 'take two' second referendum occurring in the first place. From my own point of view, I hope it does happen, for my and my family's benefit... as well as what I perceive to be the overall benefit for the country.

I do hope that in the event of a second referendum, that first time non-voters would be more likely to vote, and vote Remain.

Oops... voted again to Remain!

and i don't like feeling like the EU is holding us to ransom and not letting us leave

They're not holding us to ransom. We can leave on 29th March if we're prepared to commit economic suicide and crash out with no deal.

However if we want to retain any of the benefits of membership, we have to abide by the terms of membership associated with those benefits.

"It does occur to me, however, that of the undemocratic nature of a perhaps 'take two' second referendum occurring in the first place"

This argument is flawed because the 2016 referendum was a take 2.

I couldn’t vote at the time but I’d vote leave now

Leave then and would vote Leave in a second go (if it was an option).

In the event of us having another go and there being either more than one leave option, or as Vince Cable wanted, the only choices being Teresa May's deal or remain, I would not vote at all.

For those saying leave, how do you propose resolving the Northern Island border issues without breaching the GF Agreement and how would you suggest dealing with supply chains particularly straight after 29 March?

Still never heard a good reason for leave.

Just a load of waffle.

The ""how the EU has treated us" thing is the funniest though.

Remain then but leave if we have another referendum. I would also like to see compulsory voting in the UK similar to the Australian model. I know lots of people who didn't vote as they assumed we would overwhelmingly vote to remain.

Leave then, and would vote leave now.

It amazed me how all the polls leading up to it said it would be close, yet david cameron and the eu all seemed surprised at the result. It was always showing ludicrously close