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If there was another Brexit referendum would you vote the same way?

523 replies

marmeladerose · 14/01/2019 20:26

By the way I am not for another Brexit referendum but I am seeing a lot about it on the news/social media and it got be wondering what everyone would vote if it did happen and what did you vote before? I voted remain and would vote remain again.

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Hoppinggreen · 15/01/2019 10:30

Remain then and remain now
I strongly support another referendum, to be honest it IS because I would hope for a different result
BUT I would also like to see if the British Public really do want to leave now we have more of an idea what that looks like so if Leave won again I would accept that, even if I didn’t like it.

jasjas1973 · 15/01/2019 10:31

Remain again!
My DD who is at uni and all her friends there would also vote remain now they are of age.

They are on various NHS degree courses and feel totally let down by Brexit and the older generation who once again had advantages like FOM, EHIC etc in Europe and free education but now deny it to them.

icannotremember · 15/01/2019 10:31

Remain then, remain now.

A different outcome were there to be a fresh referendum would not be because a lot of people had changed their minds, I don't think- it would be because people who did not or could not vote last time did vote this time, and voted to Remain. You'd have to heavily target the youth vote and persuade a lot of don't knows/ couldn't be bothered that they really should vote and should vote to Remain. I don't think you can reach entrenched Leavers really. There are no leave arguments which could change my vote, why would leavers be any different?

Justheretogiveaviewfrommyworld · 15/01/2019 10:31

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Justheretogiveaviewfrommyworld · 15/01/2019 10:32

We lost free education well before Brexit and the NHS was fucked before Brexit....

Justheretogiveaviewfrommyworld · 15/01/2019 10:33

How patronising to assume leavers played a game with their vote any more than remainers did. The EU is not and can never be static, so it's impossible to vote for the status quo.

katekat383 · 15/01/2019 10:34

Hmm. The Leave people are the clowns. Look around you at the mess you ha w created. Shame on you.

katekat383 · 15/01/2019 10:34

...have

jasjas1973 · 15/01/2019 10:35

We lost free education well before Brexit and the NHS was fucked before Brexit...

Yep, as i said, previous generations took took took and then fcuked it for the next generations was my point....

Seline · 15/01/2019 10:35

It's even more fucked now though. Why throw petrol on a fire?

Justheretogiveaviewfrommyworld · 15/01/2019 10:35

Yeah OK...

BlooperReel · 15/01/2019 10:35

Leave then Remain now. If we had had a decent Government with less ego, infighting and backstabbing, I do believe Brexit could have been a fantastic opportunity for the UK, but they have fucked it up, couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery is what springs to mind.

Justheretogiveaviewfrommyworld · 15/01/2019 10:36

So why would Brexit be relevant to any of that, I'm mid 40s btw so not a BB

Seline · 15/01/2019 10:37

Because we receive funding and trained staff from the EU, and it's created an atmosphere if jingoistic nonsense which may also put off medics from further afield.

Justheretogiveaviewfrommyworld · 15/01/2019 10:40

So we train more medics and their are highly trained medics outside of the EU who will want to come here. You can be jingoistic as a remainer you know...

katekat383 · 15/01/2019 10:41

...there are

Justheretogiveaviewfrommyworld · 15/01/2019 10:41

Kate, I created no mess. If the politicians and the remainers got on with it, things would have been much smoother

Justheretogiveaviewfrommyworld · 15/01/2019 10:43

I know, I mistyped. However, you must have a nice little dig, re thick illiterate leavers, eh Kate? Yet they call us bigots...

Doubletrouble99 · 15/01/2019 10:44

Kate - what a complete load of crap! It's the remainers in the government and civil service who have made such a mess of this.

Mymycherrypie · 15/01/2019 10:45

Examples from my RL about why people voted leave.

  • Misplaced immigration beliefs
  • Xenophobia
  • wanting autonomy
  • Glee at finally having a vote on it
  • I never thought it would happen
  • I just wanted to make a statement

The first few reasons are disgusting but probably more noble in that at least they come from a place of wanting to make a change. The last three are making the vote a game. And I know a LOT of people who have said this. At least 30.

Reasons why people voted remain.

  • they wanted to remain.

Where’s the game in that.

icannotremember · 15/01/2019 10:56

It's the remainers in the government and civil service who have made such a mess of this.

TM says she voted remain, but since the referendum she has been unwavering in her stance that Brexit means Brexit.
The Brexit secretary for most of this debacle was David Davis. No way you can call him a remainer.
The next Brexit secretary was Dominic Raab. No way to call him a remainer.
The Foreign Secretary was Boris Johnson. No way you can call him a remainer.

But the state of things is all the fault of the remainers? Grin Grin Grin. You sound like someone who runs someone over in a car and then insists it was their fault for being in your way. Come up with a better argument for goodness sake.

Justheretogiveaviewfrommyworld · 15/01/2019 10:56

I wanted to make the statement that I wanted change. That is exactly what I voted for and we hopefully get, how dare you think you can know why others voted as they did and summarily dismiss them like that!

goldengummybear · 15/01/2019 10:58

I voted remain.

The problem with the referendum question was how vague it was. Leave could be everything from going it alone through to Free Trade but no political ties. I wonder how many Leavers would have been happy with the latter?

I'd still vote remain but think that it's imperative that a second referendum is clearly explained- no third referendum, does winning side need to have x% of the electorate etc If referendums are only advisory then why wasn't this fact more publicized?

Personally I think that the investigations into the Leave Campaign fraud needs to be finished before another referendum. It obviously takes time to do thorough investigations but if criminal charges are to be brought, they need to happen before the next referendum so that nobody uses those tactics with this second referendum.

Spartasprout · 15/01/2019 11:04

Still in the red for me too. I also know no one who has changed their position.

If there was another Brexit referendum would you vote the same way?
User758172 · 15/01/2019 11:07

@Mymycherrypie

When over half of the voters vote to Leave, does it not give you pause for thought and suggest that we must be going wrong somewhere? It’s easy to dismiss people as xenophobes but so many people are obviously unhappy with the direction this country is taking, and you can’t write them off as having made the ‘wrong’ choice. All this angst and infighting hasn’t helped us at all.