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To feel sad for the guy in the paternity fraud case

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moanymoaner · 10/01/2019 12:19

Was watching it on GMB this morning and he was teary , I feel sad for him . I can't imagine finding out when the kids were older that they weren't yours! I get that the boys are standing with their mum but surely they must be feeling cross with her lies :( all such a mess for them :(

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Charlie97 · 13/01/2019 08:37

@Smotheroffive you are being absolutely ridiculous, you are narrow minded and being a mother does not make anyone a saint. How you live in the real world I really don't know.

Donkdonkgoo · 13/01/2019 08:46

This is just a really awful situation, I don't know how the wife sleeps at night, and to have more than one child in this way really drives home to me her intent, callousness and lack of morals and values. What a bitch

Charlie97 · 13/01/2019 08:49

@Donkdonkgoo but she's a mother and other men have acted badly, so it's ok, according to @Smotheroffive.

Donkdonkgoo · 13/01/2019 09:32

Charlie97
I agree with you but some adult people on MN have really childish morals so that posters comment don't surprise me, this is how's wars start.
It's not about men and women its about being human and having the guts to do the right thing and face the consequences. Having more than one child in this way in my eyes shows intention! He's every right to be angry at her and he now wants revenge by claiming back finances. Such a sad story for everyone involved. If only he could just find it in him to walk away from her and still maintain his relationship and love for his sons, her "outing" as a despicable human being to the world should be revenge enough.

Doyoumind · 13/01/2019 09:33

The repeated personal attacks by some posters on other posters expressing their own views on this thread are uncalled for and reflect poorly on the posters writing them.

Boysandbuses · 13/01/2019 10:29

The repeated personal attacks by some posters on other posters expressing their own views on this thread are uncalled for and reflect poorly on the posters writing them.

You mean mean like smother accusing me of attacking her? And saying that me, disagreeing with her means that I am forcing my way of things? But her disagreeing is ok?

Generally trying to shut people down by accusing them of attacking her?

Doyoumind · 13/01/2019 10:45

When you name and quote people repeatedly that could be viewed as a personal attack, yes. Several posters have done it repeatedly. Why be so aggressive and aim it at specific people?

Boysandbuses · 13/01/2019 11:06

When you name and quote people repeatedly that could be viewed as a personal attack, yes. Several posters have done it repeatedly. Why be so aggressive and aim it at specific people?

No we were the only 2 people posting. I was quoting parts to show which parts I was responding to.

It was a discussion. Claiming personal attacks where there is none is trying to shut people down from disagreeing with you.

Quoting people or naming who you are responding too is in no way a personal attack.

If you don't want to be responded to. Don't post.

I haven't claimed I have been attacked because a poster responded to me or said that I am only bothered about this because a man is the victim etc.

I haven't personally attacked anyone.

Doyoumind · 13/01/2019 11:49

I wasn't referring to you specifically Boys. Have a look at some of the other posters on this page and their comments through the thread.

BejamNostalgia · 13/01/2019 11:53

smother, don’t, personal attacks are against the t&cs. I’ve no doubt you’ve reported them. They’ve not been deleted. That should tell you something.

Charlie97 · 13/01/2019 12:02

@Doyoumind are you @Smotheroffive sick puppet? She's ignoring any rational discussion anyway.

Charlie97 · 13/01/2019 12:02

*sock puppet

Doyoumind · 13/01/2019 12:53

Go away Charlie97. We haven't even been posting about the same things! I'm a regular poster and have no interest in sock puppetry.

Boysandbuses · 13/01/2019 13:01

I wasn't referring to you specificallyBoys. Have a look at some of the other posters on this page and their comments through the thread.

But smother was. You responded to me and then said quoting posters and naming them was a personal attack. Both of which I have done. Except that's not a personal attack. It's having a discussion.

Again, you can't back yourself up. You have said things I have done are a personal attacks the backtracking when challenged on it and saying it not me personally.

Yet not explained how quoting a poster or naming a poster is a personal attack?

Doyoumind · 13/01/2019 13:01

I haven't reported those comments Bejam. I can't speak for smother.

Comments were deleted earlier in this thread though.

Another poster was also picked out yesterday for targeting.

Doyoumind · 13/01/2019 13:08

There's no problem disagreeing and having a discussion. I have no problem with that. Anyone who quotes or names someone and tells them they are in some way stupid in their beliefs is attacking them. Does that make sense to you Boys.

Boysandbuses · 13/01/2019 13:14

There's no problem disagreeing and having a discussion. I have no problem with that. Anyone who quotes or names someone and tells them they are in some way stupid in their beliefs is attacking them. Does that make sense to youBoys.

I didn't tell anyone they were stupid. Nor did you mention being called stupid comment about personal attacks.

You superficially said that naming posters and quoting them was personal attacks. No mention of anything else.

Does that make sense to you?

Again, you haven't explained how quoting and naming posters alone is attacking?

Doyoumind · 13/01/2019 13:17

Some people come on a thread to give their opinion. Some come on to debate. It's not obligatory to debate. It's debating behaviour when you pick someone else's comments to bits. Don't pressure people into a debate when they are simply expressing their views. That might be your style but other people might find it stressful.

Boysandbuses · 13/01/2019 13:41

Doyoumind then why would that poster respond to to be people's opinions? Why would they post disagreeing with others points, but then complain when people disagree with them.

If the poster that accused me of personal attacks didn't want to debate, why would they debate and comment on others comments?

No you don't get to debate you opinions, but claim personally attacks when people debate got opinions.

No matter what way you twist this, quoting people or naming posters are not personal attacks.

Claiming they are is again is simply trying to shut down other people when you can no longer sensibly defend your stance.

Doyoumind · 13/01/2019 13:59

We just disagree Boys. I don't have to continually justify myself to you. My opinions are my opinions. I stand by all of them. Feel free to disagree.

Boysandbuses · 13/01/2019 14:02

I didn't say you have to change your mind.

But when you accuse someone of personal attacks, you absolutely should be prepared to stand by what you said.

I will not let someone accuse me of attacking someone and not defend myself.

Expecting that someone will not challenge you when you do this, is very poor behaviour.

You, of course, have a right to an opinion. I have nowhere said you don't. You don't have a right to accuse posters of attacking and not have it challenged.

Smotheroffive · 13/01/2019 14:07

See all the nastiness, somehow I am blamed for reporting posts, and the fantasy that I've been ignored, the blame for somehow being connected to another poster, the goading, yes name-calling, read back, no, that's not a debate trying to screw down every single comment anyone makes and accusatorial stance. smother /is this, I bet smother is that, ....I think sometimes it's better comments stand so posters can be seen for who they are.

I don't expect you to believe me and no doyoumind doesn't have to justify,and neither do I. This just isn't a debate.

Boysandbuses · 13/01/2019 14:10

I haven't goaded, name called or anything.

I have simply disagrees with your points. Yet, last night you aimed your post say I g I was attacking you at me. We were the only two people posting at the time.

You are the one that responded to me saying clearly it was just about money for some. You made a negative judgment on me and why I have my opinion.

Who said anyone has to justify anything. dont said that quoting and naming posters is attacking. I defended myself and asked her to explain that.

Again, you don't get to accuse people of something and then say you don't have to explain it. That is poor behaviour

OftenHangry · 13/01/2019 14:31

Some of you, really.... Hmm

She deserves this. The children, I feel sorry for, but the despicable mother is to blame.

I wonder whether pps who stand by her would happily leave money to someone who scammed them. Because that's what she did. Doubt it.

DevastatedDad2018 · 22/01/2019 18:37

Having found out my own daughter was not biologically mine after 12 years i think the lot of you defending this horrible/disgusting woman are sick! Paternity fraud is EVIL pure and simple. Any woman who condones it in my view is twisted. Imagine a man forcing a woman to raise a child that wasn't hers there would be outrage. She deserves to be bankrupted and IMPRISONED for her FRAUD. DNA testing should be mandatory and any woman found guilty of paternity fraud punished as any other fraud would be!

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