Death Penalty for Bellfield

[Charlotte48]

Having watched Manhunt about the investigation into the evil paedophile; child killer; woman killer; woman abuser and beater, Levi Bellfield, I was just wondering if, after Brexit, we should restore the death penalty. Surely Bellfield should be executed.

Greensleeves it’s you who can’t read. I don’t need anything explaining anything to me with patience. Iv worked within the
criminal justice system and with victims. Your patronising bull shit doesn’t work on me.
Why don’t you go and hug a murderer you absolute tool.

I understand why people don't want to see the death penalty brought back, I get that, but at the same time I see why people get angry at what seems such a injustice., But apart from seeing that their life will come to an end what else can be done? People speak from anger, it's very easy to say yes bring it back but most people know it simply won't happen, of course people like hindleh and Brady, Roy whiting, the Yorkshire ripper, Tracey conerlly X2 , Ian Huntley, and so many more should be wiped off the face of the earth but I know that won't happen either, when people say about bring back the death penalty I think it's more of a opinion than anything else, it's not as if there will ever be a vote( not like the dreaded Brexit)

Yes, there is a serious problem with staffing in the lower echelons of the criminl justice system. Very worrying.

Anyway, entertaining as this episode of "Educating Mince" has been, I need to go to bed. I'll leave you to your disturbing judicial murder fantasies and bizarre, ill-informed self-righteousness.

@bellabasset that was Jimmy's entire point ... 🤦‍♀️ the ones he quoted were all famous miscarriage of justice cases ... the shame is on you and your lack of reading comprehension I think!

California reinstated the death penalty and since then they have executed about 80 people at a cost that would have kept those 80 people alive and in prison for 300 years. Cheaper to keep them alive than go through the endless appeals, pay for the huge security uplift required to keep desperate men with no hope in prison and prevent them from killing each other; other prisoners and the prison officers required to guard them.

go and hug a murderer you absolute tool.

This is the reductive thinking that makes people aware that you are, indeed, thick as mince.

I can't take any questions the OP asks seriously after reading her profile.

Put him on a diet. Hit him where it hurts.

oooooh we could put Grayling or Gove in charge of it as well. What could go wrong?

I agree, death penalty has no place in a civilised country. We do have to accept, then, that costs of keeping people in prison will always rise leading to higher taxes or lesser sentences.

No one ever votes for higher taxes, but we're going to have to.

Can you not read Boris, iv said all along that I don’t agree with the death penalty. I have however stated that there is a concern that very dangerous people are being released and that fuels the call for the death penalty. How on earth does that make me thick.

I suggest you go back and look at Greens posts. Anyone who disagrees is thick and Greens extremely disgusting posts insulting people’s intelligence. No concern at all for the victims of violent crime. Green was very sneering about my work with the victims of crime and therefore is insulting and minimising their experiences. So yep go and hug a murderer. I’ll continue to not not support the death sentence but will support whole of life sentences and centre victims rights. People like Green can carry on insulting people and centre the rights of monsters.

I am implacably against the death penalty. It is a sordid act, can kill the innocent and is something we have properly rejected.

But please for the love of God will people stop saying that it’s state murder. It is not.

Murder is killing without lawful excuse. That’s why self-defence is a complete defence to murder if proven: it’s not murder (or manslaughter) to kill someone who you reasonably believe will otherwise kill you or do you great physical harm and you use reasonable force (which for savage attacks is a low test). The rationale for the state taking lives after conviction for terrible crimes is that of self-defence of society as a whole.

Very good point Kissing but I doubt you will get this lot to agree with you. Green will be along after his nap to tell you you’re as thick as mince.

Anyway I have insomnia so I’m going to watch silence of the lambs. Hopefully he won’t get the death sentence. How thick as mince would that be.

I'm against murder. No matter who is doing it.

We do have to accept, then, that costs of keeping people in prison will always rise leading to higher taxes or lesser sentences

I’m perfectly aware I’m in the minority, but I don’t agree that my taxes should be spent keeping monsters like Ian Huntley or Jon Venables in prison, fed and watered. I absolutely object to it. They could starve to death in there for all I care.

Hello, whats this.

'' we can make the general
statement that people with higher levels of
education have the increased tendency to oppose capital punishment''

people.oregonstate.edu/~hammerr/soc316/Education_Race_and_Capital_Punishment.pdf

Right wing frothers undone again by their old enemy, facts and experts.

A grieving mother who lost two baby DS's to SIDS was imprisoned for murder. Some of you would have been happy to see her hanged.

Didn't the medical expert make some figures up about the extremely unlikely odds/probability of two sids cases happening in the same family? It led to her being imprisoned.

Do you know MrsAriadne I’m beginning to believe my stance on no death penalty is wrong. All because of all the idiots on here who do not give a toss about victims. Iv said time and time again I don’t believe in the DP but am worried about violent criminals being let out. Iv been called thick as mince and my professionalism has been called into question.

I don’t think I want to be in the same company as murder groupies.

@Imissgmichael

Take a read of the statement made by the parents of 18 year old Ellen Higginbottom, who was stabbed to death in 2017 while walking home from college. They have experienced the most terrible loss, but their grace, dignity and compassion radiates from their words. They didn’t want their daughter’s killer to be executed.

“Family tribute to Ellen Higginbottom:

Paying tribute to Ellen, her family said: "We're supposed to start at the beginning but this is the news and we have neither space nor time. But equally, you can't just flip to page 647 of a person's life and know them.

“So, insights and anecdotes. It's 4am and the birds are singing like they did on Saturday morning at Orrell. Ellen would have liked it. She'd have still been messing on her phone though.

"We could tell you about how excited she was when we tentatively suggested she might want a kitchen mixer for her 18th birthday. Not clothes and make-up and jewellery for Ellen – not really her thing. Any top tips on how to preserve home-made flapjacks forever by the way?

"We could tell you how she had astonishingly reinvigorated her love of learning over the last few months after some difficult times. We could tell you that the last time we 'had words' was in 2001 when she jumped in a puddle after being told not to.

"But none of this makes sense because they're just yellow stripes highlighting the book of her life and you haven't read the rest of it.

"People have called them animals but Ellen loved animals and the psychology student in her would tell you it takes the complexity of a human mind to conjure such exquisite evil.

"People have also called for them to be strung up but we've thrown enough stones in rivers while camping for her to tell you that ripples reach the shore. Innocent people love, or at least loved, these monsters too, and I promise you, she'd also tell you that nobody deserves the pain we feel right now. What's the world coming to?

"Well, if a legacy is planting seeds in a garden you never get to see, then thanks to people like our remarkable Ellen it's coming to beauty and love and kindness."

The penultimate paragraph is the most important.

They can hardly be accused of ‘not giving a toss about victims’.

Patroclus - no real facts in there at all and it’s an old paper.

I don’t advocate the return of the death penalty but I certainly won’t be shedding a tear if Bellfield dies a slow and painful natural death. He is the epitome of evil.

I remember reading a report of what he revealed he did to Milly - utterly sickening, and probably only disclosed to increase his own infamy and torture her poor family even further.

Madders45. Can’t you read. I’ll shout for you I DONT BELIEVE IN CAPITAL PUNISHMENT.

It’s only the arseholes on here who don’t give a toss about victims who are making me waver.