Death Penalty for Bellfield

[Charlotte48]

Having watched Manhunt about the investigation into the evil paedophile; child killer; woman killer; woman abuser and beater, Levi Bellfield, I was just wondering if, after Brexit, we should restore the death penalty. Surely Bellfield should be executed.

@charlotte48 - I’d really urge you not torely on your husband’s opinions and views to inform your own. It means he essentially controls your vote. Whether it be on Brexit or anything else it’s so important that people form their own views on issues.

To your initial point however, no one is claiming Bellfield is anything other than a monster. However, the death penalty is also monstrous

Behold, a man has spoken, and an accountant, wouldn’t you know.

I’ll get my pinny.

I thought you came across as disingenuous when you kept spelling names wrong and not taking info on board, OP. Suspicion confirmed after reading that twaddle...

So you don’t actually know shit, you just parrot your DH views?

I’m embarrassed for you.

Charlotte48, oh dear.

I'm amazed anyone can be "civil" to anyone who thinks the death penalty is acceptable.

Yes, of course, incivility is unacceptable - unless someone disagrees with you, in which case you can demonstrate the superiority of your case by incivility. What hypocrisy.

I oppose the death penalty, but if I come across someone who is in favour of it I don't just start calling them names and being nasty about it - what the hell is the point of that?

Society is becoming so divisive, and so many people are so convinced that they are 100% right and anyone who disagrees is scum - this is not a way to persuade others to change and will result in strife.

Well your reasons for voting to leave the EU are as spurious as your reasons for thinking the death penalty should be brought back.

I hope your husband is a better accountant than he is at thinking about politics.

Wow. 1950s wife much... Your husband is as wrong about the EU as you are about the death penalty. Do some independent reading and get an opinion that's yours, not his.

You clearly have a very high opinion of your husband, Charlotte, and that’s understandable and absolutely fine.

Look at the EU and the UK as a divorce. Is the EU perfect? No. Is there some truth in what he is saying? Maybe.

But in a marriage we all consider so much more, mutual benefits and investment, children, future plans and occasionally we have to compromise. Our relationship with the EU is one of political marriage and something a marriage of convenience can be a very stable. We give, take and if it works we don’t break it.

"He says that David Cameron went to Europe to try to get the Brussels beaurocats to agree a two speed Europe and they would not do this – as they are Hell bent on the federalist agenda as laid out in the Maastricht Treaty."

Well as Cameron neogtiated exemption from ever closer union, and other countries don't have to join the euro etc, your husband is factually wrong about this.

www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/dont-call-me-stupid-says-brexiter-before-saying-something-stupid-20170731133090

I am sorry if I appear dim, I am not very good on politics

I'm empathise with this as politics is not my strong point either. However, it is very unwise to allow one person to sway your vote without researching for yourself. You never when you might vote the country off an economic cliff Or vote yourself out of a job still have not forgiven you, Sunderland, you numpties

What I tend to do when a major vote is coming up is read the MN politics board. They tend to explain things in a much more straight forward way than the BBC, Sky News, Huff Post, The Times etc.

Once I've armed myself with a basic understanding of the issues and picked a side I take to Google and confirm what is bring written on MN is true. I Google both sides just in case Google has more info that might sway me into voting another way. I use a wide variety of sources including those mentioned above as well as fact checking sites. I never use the Daily Heil, The Mirror or The Sun for researching. Those who do that risk voting themselves out of a job like the good people of Sunderland

Alternatively, it is never too late to go back to college or join the EU and study politics and/or economics.

Don't know what to say, to the OP's post on what her husband thinks, are we all supposed to sit back in wonder at his words of 'wisdom' because he must be right mustn't he, because he's a man?

That's so sad OP, and you apologise for appearing dim. Is that what he tell's you? He's a man with opinions not an oracle, so it's probably better not to quote him as if he knows the answer to the meaning of life.

What about your thoughts and opinions OP, do you not have any of your own?

I take it your husband is in favour of the death penalty as well?

It's so sad that you have to spout your husband's thought

Join the *OU that should be not the EU. My predicative text seems to have a case of wishful thinking.

Bellfield is a vile human, I don't suppose many tears would be shed if he died but no we shouldn't bring back the death penalty for reasons of principle and practicality.

I recognise the op has acknowledged she doesn't know what she's talking about- most people wouldn't do that.

However I am dismayed by the general lack of understanding about the difference between the EU and the ECHR among other things.

Whatever your view on the pros and cons of being in the EU isn't it clear a lot of people just did not understand what they were voting for? This isn't necesarily a critisism most people don't need to know this sort of thing and aren't interested and why should they be ... until along comes a referendum on a hugely complicated subject and now we are all very likely in the shit.

@Charlotte48 I should imagine that you voted leave because your ever so cleaver husband time you to and he's got a degree and lots of qualifications!

You were given a vote for what you wanted to vote for.

See this is why Brexit was voted in because people like YOU who had not a clue, just voted for what their ever so clever with a degree accountant husbands told them to. Obviously, they also only voted once they'd done dinner, clears up and ironed their husbands shirt for the next day.

As for saying that you're upset people are say brexit voters are thick, just because you can pass qualifications and exams does not mean you're not thick in other areas.

Your posts sound like they cone from the 1950s!

Of course I listen to DH as he studies the economics of things and reads up on it but it's not true that I've not got my own opinions. DH is actually against the death penalty and if there was a second referendum he would vote (as he sees it as his public duty to do so) and I wouldn't. Also, he thinks the UK will leave the EU in some form or other whereas my view has always been that we won't.

Charlotte48 You can listen to your husband's opinions all you want, but why do you think that relating them on here as if he's some sort of expert, which he isn't, is relevant?

He's not on here - so no one cares what he thinks or how he'd vote - you are, and quoting your husband like a 1950 housewife does indeed, as you say, make you sound a bit dim.

I read Milly's sister's book... The poor family have to cope knowing he fantasises about what he did to her, scared out of her mind. He should be put down to relieve the family of this suffering.

Yes, of course it was only joining the ecg that humanised us.. Before that we were slaughtering left right and center... Thankfully they civilised us and we dumped the death penalty.

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why would you post on here after all this time

You're talking through your hat. UK prisons hold inmates who will never, ever be paroled or released and will die there. You can easily research them.

The EU and Brexit have zero connection to that.

@User758172

Tell you what, let's add in shoplifting and speeding just to be on the safe side. And parking on a yellow line, let's include those scumbags too

Don’t be silly.

But that’s what I believe. Murderers and rapists have no place in a civilised society and should be permanently removed.

Ooh, that's a good one. Maybe we could like, put them somewhere really secure, far away from other people and make it so they're not allowed out? Then they would have no place amongst civilised people like you and me!