Death Penalty for Bellfield

[Charlotte48]

Having watched Manhunt about the investigation into the evil paedophile; child killer; woman killer; woman abuser and beater, Levi Bellfield, I was just wondering if, after Brexit, we should restore the death penalty. Surely Bellfield should be executed.

Absolutely not. Totally uncivilised and not necessary. Life meaning life in prison is enough. There have been enough miscarriages of justice to make state sanctioned execution totally unacceptable.

No. Death penalty is abhorrent

No.
Far too many people have been executed that have since been proven innocent, despite being proven 'guilty without shadow of a doubt.'

Execution is legalised murder and makes us no better than the alleged murderer.

You have only to read Albert Pierrepoint's biography/autobiography to see why he ended up believing that execution was wrong.

I don't agree with the DP in any circumstances, ever. No matter what the person has done.
A state should not be able to decide who lives and who dies. Ever.

Disgusting idea, state sanctioned murder is still murder and it very clearly is no deterrent.

One of my biggest concerns is that the Brexit vote is likely to resurrect the death penalty lobby.
Killing is killing. It’s unacceptable in a supposedly civilised society.

Ahhh bollox... it's a zombie thread!

Death is far to good for him!

*I feel the same way.

It's a fact that, if you are against the death penalty, it must apply across the board, not just people for whom you have some sympathy.

Difficult at times when faced with somebody like Bellfield but if the law started making exceptions, where would it end?*

I completely agree. I feel it's a slippery slope to allow the government to execute citizens. Today it might be a POS murderer that nobody really cares about... but tomorrow, who knows?

If we take away basic rights from people we consider less than human, we take them away from ourselves, too.

ZOMBIE THREAD, FOLKS!

@Patroclus

Mate even Russia dont have the death penalty.

Well, they kind of do. Upset Putin and you end up being administered a lovely radioactive cocktail...

Anyway, zombie or not, it's good to see that nearly every comment on this thread is against the death penalty.

Though I totally understand the sentiment behind wanting to make an exception for certain people - Bellfield, Robert Black, the Moors Murderers, Sutcliffe. On the plus side, most of them are dead now and died in jail without some do-gooders getting them released.

Absolutely OP. Brexit has catered for the deluded all the way along, why not chuck corporal and capital punishment into the mix. And lowering the school leaving age to 11, get them used to working for a living. I could use a skivvy to scrub my floors. Bring back 1900 asap. Oh, and more money for our betters please, someone should give Cameron a hand so he doesn't have to sully himself by begging as he has been doing. Not easy maintaining ones millionaire status you know.

The thing about the death penalty is it sounds good (or at least not that bad) when you think about it being used on people like Bellfield. But the reality is you'd end up with a system that is just as discriminatory as the justice system is now. Just look at the number of miscarriages of justice there have been over the last 50 years and look who they have happened to. These are the people we'd be executing.

@longwayoff you forgot military service. For other people's children only of course.

Complete oversight porcupine, thanks very much, you are absolutely right. Only for men though, we ladies are meant for other things.

@twattymctwatterson

It's so depressing that people as thick as this exist

Why are you calling something thick because they have a different opinion to yours.

@RJnomore1

Absolutely not. He should never be released but state sponsored murder is still murder.

^ This. If killing is wrong (and I think it is), it's wrong.

@longwayoff

Absolutely OP. Brexit has catered for the deluded all the way along, why not chuck corporal and capital punishment into the mix. And lowering the school leaving age to 11, get them used to working for a living. I could use a skivvy to scrub my floors. Bring back 1900 asap. Oh, and more money for our betters please, someone should give Cameron a hand so he doesn't have to sully himself by begging as he has been doing. Not easy maintaining ones millionaire status you know.

It's better to have things handed on a plate and the kids are lazy and sit on the bums all day if not they are out fighting and stabbing each other! The crime is through the roof... You're right, 2021 is so much better.

I feel there is a place for allowing the bereaved family to choose; I would want him hung if he took one of my children away - and that is an option that would be based on a case by case basis. Obviously where no reasonable doubt exists.

I realise there are many more forgiving people than I - but - I know that despite my best efforts i would never be gracious enough to not vote for the rope. Others will of course have a different perspective - and I respect that,

The death penalty is not a deterrent, that's proven by the murders taking places where death penalties exist.

Keeping people like Bellfield alive and stuck in prison is more likely to make him suffer.

Yeah, let's be like Saudi Arabia. Great idea, OP.

I agree with the death penalty in theory, but not in practice. It is not a deterrent and never has been, and some abuse survivors pointed out that it could be used as leverage to silence a victim ("you don't want Daddy to be hanged, do you?") The USA has had it for decades, as TurquoiseDragon says, and crime still happens there. I also find people who post their elaborate torture/death wank fantasies quite creepy, to be perfectly honest.