Aibu to be annoyed at Tesco forcing me to have bagless deliveries

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Just that really, they are doing a trial and won't deliver anything in a bag. Not even a paper one. Don't really won't the delivery driver walking through the house so will have to take my delivery via the back door .

I've only skimmed the thread, so don't know if I'm the first with this, but I reckon that shopping should be delivered in bags for life, which are charged for, but the homeowner hands back the empty bags at the next delivery and gets a full refund.

This is almost as convenient as using disposable bags, and much better than the alternatives.

Crate into the flat is a complete non-starter for me for about three different reasons.

Crates to the front door is hugely less convenient, it means two extra flights of stairs and several minutes repacking.

The reason it means extra stairs is that flat communal entrance and my front door is on first floor, but internally you have to go down stairs to kitchen on ground floor. With bags, groceries can be delivered to ground floor garage door and carried past car straight into kitchen. (Can't squeeze past car with crates, it's actually not that easy with bags.)

I'll say it again in a shorter post so no-one misses it, as it's so brilliant.

Delivery in recyclable bags solves all issues.

Well done Tesco.

I usually also have a litter of kittens running around the house as I foster for a rescue, so having the door open for long enough to dump a week's worth of shopping in the hallway could result in escapes.

Fucking hell. Seriously. If it’s so fucking hard for you to deal with a delivery then go to the shops yourself.

Or you could just shut the kittens in a different room for 10 mins.

I have a theory that as our lives have become easier and safer, people have focused on tiny inconsequential issues. Like some kind of evolution mal adaption. No longer have to worry about tigers eating your baby, decide to worry about the Tesco man touching your floor with his manly feet.

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I get stuff delivered in crates. We can then choose to empty the crates or keep them for collection at the next delivery. I’d forgotten some places still use bags!

What do you imagine would then happen to those bags?

'Recycling' isn't a magic wand that means no resources were used.

Unless you a proposing that the supermarket carry the goods by hand to your door, not using crates, and that you carry them from the door not using crates or bags, then this solution does not use more resources than the alternatives.

Cheers for the heads up.
I was going to get delivery but won't be using them. They should give the option of bags or not.
At the moment I need shopping in bags. Chilled/frozen the bags are put on counters the rest is left in the bags until later.
I haven't got space or energy to have everything piled on counters.
They could introduce the compost bags that Co-op has.

How did I cope before deliveries? Well, I didn't have these health issues, but it would require either writing a massive shopping list and sending others. Or be one of those that shopping involves the whole family, and I went somewhere with guaranteed seating for me to rest.

Sorry, I guess you didn't read my previous posts, so didn't understand what I meant by recycling. Which as my short post was meant to be self--explanatory, is my fault.

By "recycling" I meant repeatedly using the same bags, in place of crates and other bags.

Well they could reuse the bags for life for other deliveries but then you'd get the hygiene freaks on here worrying about 'contamination'.

I don't get home delivery because to me it's just as easy to pop into the supermarket on the way home from work, so I don't see the value in the service, but if I did, I'd just let the delivery person bring the shopping into the kitchen.

I just see the 'dumping all the shopping into the hallway' as a ridiculous solution to the non-problem of the delivery person coming into the kitchen.

Or you could just shut the kittens in a different room for 10 mins

You'll have heard the phrase 'herding cats'. Well herding kittens is 10 x harder.

Of COURSE using bags, 'recyclable' or not, uses more resources than crates that are just emptied and immediately reused. I mean obviously it does

Hopefully my subsequent post has clarified. There would be no crates, there would be bags instead. There would be less material used, as (a) bags (possibly) use less plastic than crates, and (b) nothing extra would be used for transport inside the home.

I have a theory that as our lives have become easier and safer, people have focused on tiny inconsequential issues

First there were big spaces for parents with young children. Then parents couldn't possibly park in a space that wasn't marked 'Parent and Children'.

Now there's supermarket delivery, where someone does your shopping for you and a driver delivers it to your front door - or even kitchen, if they are allowed to enter the house. And still people can't cope!

What, exactly can people cope with these days?

I agree with you. The easier things become the more people want that bit extra.

Someone has their shopping delivered but made the choice not to allow the delivery man in to unpack the trays in the kitchen - Take some recyclable bags to the front door and unpack yourself! It's not difficult!

In case it's still not clear, "recycling" means the same bags would be used as many hundreds or thousands of times as crates are now. (Their lifetime might be shorter but as they use less plastic there needn't be a net increase in materials.)

Bags would be used instead of crates, would not consume more material, would eliminate the use of anything else within the home (giving a net reduction in material) and be almost as convenient as disposable bags. (The extra "inconvenience" would be handing them back at the next delivery so you could get a refund and the supermarket could reuse them.)

They can't reuse the bags because of hygiene reasons

Do they really have, or just choose? I don't believe crates go through a full recycling process before being reused, I'm not convinced bags have to be different.

I think it should be feasible to simply means washing the bags, assuming that's what's done for crates. Since posting I see someone in Australia posted that they have exchangeable bags as an option, those were fabric bags, so I guess we could have bags where "recycling" meant putting them through a hot wash.

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Why not just have shopping delivered in crates and those who don't give a fuck about the amount of plastic that's ruining our planet can go to the shops and buy more bags or reuse the bags they already have. Or, alternatively, transfer their shopping into bags at the front door if they can't possibly allow the delivery driver into their kitchen to unpack.

Why should there be a need for washing and sharing bags? Everyone has recyclable bags. There's no need to share them. Take them from your cupboard, move them to front door, tip contents of crates into bags. Voila! Shopping in bags.

TBF, my house is open plan, there is no where expect outside for me to put the dog so I pile it all out of crates into the porch the only enclosed area downstairs and then slowly move it to the kitchen. It's a bit of a pain, but it's still easier than having to do it all myself...

I throw it all in the door then get my 4 year old to transfer it to the kitchen, its her 'job'!

We've had this for ages in Oz where I live. Delivery driver comes in, unpacks onto the counter, says g'day, leaves.

There's another supermarket that delivers in cooler boxes with ice packs. You give back the previous boxes each time you order.

I'm disabled and I have rubbish hands. I try to order when DH or one of the kids is at home to carry the crates through to the kitchen then help unpack.

I only I am home I order with bags and get the delivery man to carry them through to the kitchen for me to unpack in my own time. Occasionally the shopping has turned up unbagged and the delivery man has willingly helped me get everything out of crates. I have always found them really helpful.

I didn't realise that you could register as disabled with Tesco. Presumably the delivery people get allocated a bit of extra time then, so it's probably worth doing.

I was really pissed off when I did a Christmas order from Iceland and there was no option for bagless delivery! Then when it came they used so many bags it was ridiculous!