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What do you make of this DM story

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Stepmum3 · 06/01/2019 13:05

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6561079/Millionaire-reveals-moment-doctor-told-father-three-adored-boys.html#comments-6561079

Basically a man finds out after 21 years he couldn’t of possibly fathered his three boys he knew as sons due to being diagnosed with cystic fibrosis. Then sued his Ex wife for the CSA and walked away with 250k. He had paid her 4 million and maintenance following their divorce. Two of the boys no longer talk to him 1 saying if you sue mum I won’t talk to you again.

I get the anger and hurt caused by this however the value of the boys he placed at 250k. What will the money bring back I feel nothing. A real sad story and upsetting for all involved. Although, I do think the wife is a bit of a cunt.

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Missingstreetlife · 06/01/2019 13:41

If he's married to their mother they are legally his.

MadMum101 · 06/01/2019 13:43

I read it that a sister of his died and another was very ill with CF, which is why he was tested when he was younger, so it is obviously in his family.

Makes you wonder if the wife engineered it to make sure they didn't have DC with it? If so, very dishonest.

He is perfectly entitled to be furious, bitter and vengeful IMO. Sometimes you can't put the feelings of grown DC first when something so terrible has been done to you. His wife profited from him while cheating on him and letting him unknowingly raise another man's children. Too right he should have sued her.

Too bad the wife was so arrogant she assumed the truth would never be known. She is totally at fault here.

Hopefully the DC will wake up to what their mother did, perhaps when they have DC of their own, and decide to get back into the man who raised them's life again.

I imagine the mother has had to create a defence for herself to explain her deceit without alienating her children. That is perhaps why they want nothing to do with him atm.

Karmin · 06/01/2019 13:43

Nope they aren't @Missingstreetlife

MyDcAreMarvel · 06/01/2019 13:44

I think he is worse than his wife, being a parent is far more than biology. His poor sons more be devasted that he has said he is not their father. He is.

Missingstreetlife · 06/01/2019 13:45

Not such a smug. I think lots of infidelity has always gone on but men often a bit more than women.

Purplecatshopaholic · 06/01/2019 13:45

I saw this and was horrified - some women are just awful! How could you treat him as ' dad' (and take his money) knowing its not true?!! I dont know how she sleeps at night, I really dont

silvercuckoo · 06/01/2019 13:45

She only got that high of the settlement due to the 3 bloody kids!
But she would've had that anyway, even non-biological children are counted as dependants for the divorce settlement purposes (as "children of the family").

MyDcAreMarvel · 06/01/2019 13:46

*must

Stepmum3 · 06/01/2019 13:46

I think the only people who have truly lost are the boys. I admire the son who laid his cards on the table and said you sue I will no longer speak to you. The father was given a choice and ran with the money. However, I know I have not always behaved the best when I am hurt and angry.

I hope the mother shares who the true father is. However, the boys still have their memories with the original father. 🤔

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CarolDanvers · 06/01/2019 13:47

Awful. But she’s no worse than men who disappear out of there children’s lives and do not support them in any way at all and they never seem to get vilified in the press.

Jsmith99 · 06/01/2019 13:47

I can completely understand why this poor chap is so angry. His ex is a snake, and she richly deserves everything that’s coming to her as a consequence of him going public about her betrayal.

I’m surprised the guy decided to sue his ex after her son told him that he would cut off contact if he did. Perhaps this was a deliberate strategy to cut her sons out of his life, and finances, while remaining on the moral high ground......

CarolDanvers · 06/01/2019 13:48

Their not there

WinnieFosterTether · 06/01/2019 13:48

What I found odd about the coverage, was that there was an underlying assumption that the wife knew the children weren't his. Although, she knew she was having an affair, she probably thought the DCs were his.

I think it's a shame that the dad jumped to disown the children because he was angry with his ex and that he didn't really consider the impact that would have on the children. None of this is their fault. Then choosing to plaster it all over the media . ..Both parents have been breathtaking in their selfishness.

NotSuchASmugMarriedNow1 · 06/01/2019 13:48

yes as a PP rightly pointed out, she still would have got the same settlement as they are "children of the family"

My own thoughts are that if he was a loyal and faithful husband to her for the 20 years then he's been treated appaulingly. If he's been unfaithful too, then, well, they deserve each other. Better for two unfaithful people to be married to each other than to another - faithful - person

Missingstreetlife · 06/01/2019 13:48

Yes, children of the marriage and born in it. Bet he's on the birth certs too. They are not step children from previous relationship, or born after separation.

DutchSparkle · 06/01/2019 13:49

I get what she did is unforgivable but he raised 3 boys as his own for 21 years. What he did was all about money and he did think about the boys at all. I don't blame them for not talking to him but she must take some of the blame for the deceit and cold hearted money grabbing too.

carnitine · 06/01/2019 13:49

For me, I think what is the most awful is that he never once mentions the shock and trauma it must have caused the boys to find out the person they thought was their dad isn't and that their mum is a cheating liar.

Then to add insult to their obvious pain, to take his ex wife to court.

Those poor boys, and now to find it all over the Daily Mail.

Bluestitch · 06/01/2019 13:50

Sometimes you can't put the feelings of grown DC first when something so terrible has been done to you.

His twins were 16 when they had to undergo a DNA test for his case, not grown ups but kids at a difficult age in terms of development and their education.

MadMum101 · 06/01/2019 13:50

If you read it correctly, all 3 of the boys had disowned him before he made his story public.

It looks like they divorced in 2007 but he has just won the case to get some of the settlement back now which is why he went public.

silvercuckoo obviously not or he wouldn't have got some back!

CarolDanvers · 06/01/2019 13:52

Didn’t need to go public and sell his story did he? He wanted to shame her and couldn’t care less about the kids. Sounds like an arsehole to me.

wiltingflower · 06/01/2019 13:52

I think the situation is sad. I have sympathy for the man as his ex wife cheated and cuckolded him.

However I feel more sorry for the sons. They grew up with a man they loved and cared for as their father. This same man now says this:
‘You don’t know what’s real and what isn’t – it’s as if I’m living in The Matrix,’ he said. ‘Someone says to you, “All that you know and everything you thought to be solid and true is not real, and never did exist. You are not a father, you are not able to have kids, your name will not continue.”

Regardless of whether the man is blood related to his children, surely he loves them and had a good father son relationship with them all? Surely this bond would qualify him as a father even if he isn't biologically. The sons don't know any other father figure besides him. They would have continued his 'name' even if not by blood.

And then there's this:
‘And when friends post things on Facebook about their own families like their first grandchild or saying they’re proud of their boy for something, I just think, “My God, that’s all been taken away from me.”

Personally, this hasn't been taken away from the man just because his sons aren't biologically his. Isn't love more important than blood?
The man focuses so much on biological relations that I wonder how his sons feel about the man they call Dad saying the things above and these quotes which are not likely to repair the relationship between father and sons:
‘It’s like suffering a bereavement, it’s incredible, but in a way it’s even worse than that because it goes to the very heart of who you think you are. When someone asks you about your background, you tell them you’re the father of three children – it’s how you define yourself.
‘In an instant I discovered I didn’t really have any children.'
‘How are you going to tell your friends and family – parents, aunties and uncles that they do not have grandchildren or nephews?’

It seems that the man has difficulty in differentiating between being a Dad and a father and this must be hurtful to his sons too:
‘I’m not their father, I know that, but I’m still their dad. When I talk about them with other people, naturally, after 21 years, I say “my sons”, then I have to stop and correct myself and say, “the sons I thought were mine”.
‘It’s different if you adopt or foster a child. That’s been done out of choice without any deceit or lies. In this case, because there has been deception it eats away at you.
‘I’m not their father – I’m not even a friend of the family. I’m just a guy who was there when they were being brought up.’
‘I told him I’d just been diagnosed with cystic fibrosis, which he took surprisingly calmly, and I said, “Yes, but one of the things that I’ve just been told is that it is extremely unlikely that someone with cystic fibrosis could father a child.”
‘He said, “I’m already ahead of you, Dad. You’re saying you’re probably not my father?”
‘It would have been the hardest sentence to utter, and he did it for me.
‘I said, “Well, I’m your dad, obviously, but I don’t think I conceived you.”

Then there's these quotes which suggest despite the paternity issues, the sons did/ do still see their Dad as their Dad:
''The eldest, however, refused to provide a DNA sample, saying, ‘As far as I’m concerned he’s my dad and that’s that.’ ''
''Though two of the boys still maintain a stony silence towards him, Richard was overjoyed to receive a text from the third last month, which began: ‘Dad, as I explained from the beginning you would never not be dad to me regardless of all this. Of course I’ll stay in touch, that will never change… I’m always here for you too and you will always be Dad. Love you x.’ ''

I hope the relationship between father and sons improves but this article is unlikely to have helped things. It suggests the man doesn't truly think his sons are his own because of the focus on blood relations and this is a shame as you don't need to be blood related to be a fantastic father. I wonder if the sons feel let down by their Dad based on this and the article that has been published. I also wonder if it's ok to publish a family photo of sons as children with the man and his ex wife? Is there a consent issue here? At time of writing the sons faces were not blurred out in the article.

This part is more reconciliatory:
''Looking ahead, Richard, whose persistent cough is the only clue to his declining lung capacity, now wants one thing more than ever – to be the boys’ ‘dad’ once more.
‘If I could wave a magic wand, I would want to be in all their lives,’ he said.''

Ultimately I hope everyone in the story involved finds peace and a happy resolution. There are no winners in this situation.

HollowTalk · 06/01/2019 13:54

even non-biological children are counted as dependants for the divorce settlement purposes (as "children of the family")

Surely not in all cases? In that case you could have a child having maintenance from their father and a step father.

CarolDanvers · 06/01/2019 13:57

He wasn’t able to biologically have children and yet he was able to be a father/dad for twenty years and all the joy that brings. I’m sorry but I couldn’t react in the way that he did. I’d be gutted but I couldn’t go scorched earth the way he has. His pride is more important than his children and I am sorry but I just will never agree that this is the worst thing that could happen to someone.

MynameisJune · 06/01/2019 13:58

If this was a women suing a man it would be a completely different thread.

Ffs what she did was fucking atrocious. Maybe she should have thought about her kids feelings before fucking around with another man and making her husband raise them as his own.

Cookit · 06/01/2019 13:59

2/3 are already not talking to him.

Will the 1 that does keep in contact after this article? I’m not sure I would. It’s humiliating. Yes they’re not named but he is and there are photos of the boys when they were young. Lots of people who know them will know all about it now.

The wife behaved disgustingly but he should be the bigger person. Just stop the maintenance as soon as he found out, discuss with the wife and boys and not take it any further and try to still be a decent father to the boys.

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