To hate red trousers on men?

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This seems to be a status marker meaning I am very posh, so it doesn't matter if I look like a total nob.

I quite like the look of Nantucket reds and a button-down shirt. I also like to see a more mature gent in a Panama hat. I am not remotely posh mind you.

@MissSusanScreams I might be a bit thick (and too poor for pearls) but the dictionary defines the phrase’s synonyms as including ‘sanctimonious’ ‘self righteous’ and ‘superiority complex’ so I don’t think I’m too far off the mark.

I love them. DP wears his with pride and joyfully calls them his fucking red trousers. He also has green, blue and soft pink pairs and I think he looks fab. Lovely smart casual off duty look.

I know plenty of other men who wear red/coloured trousers, too. This includes my dad, who has pink trousers. He got sent a promo Christmas card from a company he buys from, duly celebrating them! DM was pleased as she likes red and green Christmas cards for her dining room.

This one!

What’s the difference between mocking red trousers and mocking live laugh love signs on someone’s wall?

Well to be fair everyone mocks those signs 🤣

@Bluntness100 well, quite but by the same token some people obviously like them yet thread after thread pops up about them and similar items.

Someone once told me that what someone else thinks about you (and I guess by extension what you wear, how you furnish your house) is none of your business - I’ve tried to live by that since then as it’s quite right, who cares! Everyone’s allowed to not find something aesthetically pleasing, and the way we dress ourselves and our lives does reflect a certain image of us, of course it does (like red trousers = posh) - that image isn’t always true but it’s daft to pretend it isn’t there.

what someone else thinks about you is none of your business

I've heard this too but disagree Of course we all want to know what other people think about us.

You had better tell Santa

@WrapAndRoll oh don’t get me wrong, if you could be presented with a book of everything everyone has ever said about you, I’d read it! I just think I would be able to take a more ‘well, that’s what YOU think’ approach and move on (in reality, I would almost definitely have a little cry...)

I never suggested anyone was confusing it with racism but they both come down to who is in the power of privilege?

Lomond makes a good point.

Laughing at some a low paid manual worker who spends his free time in “ill fitting jogging bottoms” would absolutely not absolutely not the same as laughing at a highly paid business man who wears red trousers as casual wear.

And we all know that. And we all know why.

The OP is making value judgements about particular men based solely on their clothes, that’s what’s problematic about this thread.

It doesn’t matter though. The thread isn’t going to do any damage whatsoever to “the men in red trousers”. They aren’t going to care. They aren’t going to be hurt. They don’t need the validation.

They aren’t going to care. They aren’t going to be hurt. They don’t need the validation.

Some won't. Others will care, and find the comments hurtful. Money and class don't make you an unfeeling robot with a vast amount of self-confidence, who needs no validation. People of any income level or background may be tough as old boots, or sensitive and easily hurt, or anywhere in between.

Nona so it’s fine to sneer and bully someone because you think they’re posh?
What do you mean they won’t care? How do you know they won’t?
It’s also cowardly as you are saying it’s fine to dish it out to some people and they should just take it without retaliating.

Laughing at some a low paid manual worker who spends his free time in “ill fitting jogging bottoms” would absolutely not absolutely not the same as laughing at a highly paid business man who wears red trousers as casual wear

I don't see the need or justification to laugh at anyone's clothes.

This is nasty little thread with nasty posts by sanctimonious posters posturing around on a moral high ground existing in their own imagination.

This is nasty little thread with nasty posts by sanctimonious posters posturing around on a moral high ground existing in their own imagination.

Nona so it’s fine to sneer and bully someone because you think they’re posh?

What do you mean they won’t care? How do you know they won’t It’s also cowardly as you are saying it’s fine to dish it out to some people and they should just take it without retaliating.

That’s not what I’m saying at all dapple and wrap.

I haven’t said it was ok to insult individuals regardless of wealth or social class.

I haven’t said “wealthy people are unfeeling robots”.

I said that the generic class of red trouser wearing men aren’t in any way harmed by the thread.

I certainly haven’t said anything even approaching “It’s fine to dish it out and they should take it without retaliation”. Goodness knows how you drew that inference.

I’m sure that if the OP were rude enough to approach the next red trousered chap she happens to encounter and criticise his trews that he might very well be hurt and affronted and he’d certainly be entitled to tell her so.

I have clearly expressed in both my posts on this thread that I thought the OP was incorrect. I further explained that she probably wouldn’t appreciate the “social markers” in my clothes either. I have no doubt she’d consider me “posh”.

As for how I know? My social circle contains a number of red trouser wearing wealthy men. The idea that any of them (even the most sensitive) would be hurt by what a random woman on Mumsnet (Mumsnet for goodness sake) thought about their trousers is hysterical.

My point was that the OP is clearly not speaking from a position of power, wealth or privilege therefore her distaste for coloured breeks is not at all comparable to a wealthy privileged person sneering at a person without economic or social status.

I don't see the need or justification to laugh at anyone's clothes.

I completely agree Marguerita that doesn’t invalidate my point though.

I completely agree Marguerita that doesn’t invalidate my point though

Well we will have to disagree on that. It doesn't really matter whether red- trousered gentlemen are harmed by this thread or not.

Or that the OP is not speaking from a position of power, wealth or privilege. Her distaste for coloured breeks is not a free pass to launch into a no holds barred sneering. Someone can come from a less privileged class and still be a nasty, narrow-minded, prejudiced bully.

Well said Margeurita.

We don’t know that the OP is not speaking from a position of power, wealth or privilege. This has nothing to do with punching up or down, please. Don’t dignify it as anything more than what it is. Someone with nothing better to entertain herself with than to try and whip up more froth than a career barista.

Today, red trousers; tomorrow, benefit claimants with the latest iPhones or flatscreen TVs. Two sides of the same twatty coin. Idle class-baiting, just another goady thread with no purpose other than to wind ‘em up and watch ‘em go for some twatty OP’s twatty amusement.

We've got a shop that sells them and another shop that has those faded coloured sweatshirts as well. I see them around a lot though I suspect they're not as posh as the trousers. I sometimes think maybe I should just buy a pair and walk around town shaking hands with other red trousered people. Jolly good!

I won't be offended by others mocking my clothing. It'll all be down to jealousy.

Sure. I am just jealous that my DP does not wear red trousers.

My DP has coloured chinos not red.

I have tried to rtft and skimmed for the juicy bits.

I agree it is not any better to take the piss out of someone if they're rich, it is the same to mock if they're poor.

Laughing at some a low paid manual worker who spends his free time in “ill fitting jogging bottoms” would absolutely not absolutely not the same as laughing at a highly paid business man who wears red trousers as casual wear.

It really is. It is like saying laughing at a thin person is ok, but not a fat person. Shaming is shaming.
It is not ok to judge anyone for any trival reason.

Right, this thread does it - I'm going to buy some red trousers. I really am.

They look ridiculous on men and women. Unless you are a clown then feel free. Burgundy trousers ....well that's a whole other thread.