To think DS needs professional help urgently?

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Ds11 just broke down on me. Showed me a note he's written saying "kill me before I do something". He says he thinks about killing him self every night.

Wtf do I do!?!?

He's in no danger at the moment as far as I'm aware but who knows?

Do I phone 111 or do I wait until morning??

Do I take him to a&e??

When he was 10 he would walk out in front of cars, he would drop his dads weights onto his feet or legs to hurt himself. We saw gp's, cyps who said he wasn't depressed, wasn't suicidal. Even though he told them he was!!

He had counselling and we thought he had gone past this but now...

I'm just lost, someone help me to help him..

I would call 111. I hope he gets the help he needs

If he is in immediate danger of harming himself which I personally think he is if he gave you that note, then take him to A&E and he will be assessed by the mental health crisis team. Prepare for a long wait. As nothing is hanging off or gushing blood, he won't be top priority but I do think he needs to go.

I would take him to A&E with his history and this note I wouldnt want to risk him taking something too far.

Either ring 111 or take him into A&E. You can't be too careful. I'm so sorry. My eldest is 11, I can't say how I'd feel in your shoes. I hope he gets the help he needs x

I would personally get him seen to tonight. If he is thinking about killing himself every night, you can't be sure he will be safe

So sorry that you & your ds are going through this

I think I would go up to a&e, with that history, if there is the slightest chance he may harm himself, I think it's better to be safe than sorry.

Gosh,no wonder you’re worried
If you think there’s an immediate risk Take your son to A&E ask to see psychiatric liaison for an assessment. However Saturday night they will be busy
Can he describe what he is experiencing?does he hear auditory commands or have compelling thoughts
Has there been any recent events/triggers or upset that would cause mental state to deteriorate?
Is there a pattern to this?any particular days or build up
Is school ok?

If it can wait see your GP ask for an referral to CAMHS
And finally I wish you both well

Take him to a&e - he will be should be kept in and monitored and seen by someone that can offer professional help.

Keeping you in my thoughts OP

A&E love. Xx

God don’t wait for Gp and cahms referral. A and e units are supposed to have mental health specialists and access now. I’d probably try there, maybe in the morning when drunks etc are fewer.

I think even if there is a big queue because it’s Saturday night something like mental health and suicide might be put first? I don’t know how true this is but I have heard this before

You can call an ambulance if getting yourself to hospital is a problem as well FYI. Thinking of you 💐

I've just checked on him and he's asleep. His cheeks are wet and he's cuddling my teddy.

He can't explain, he just says no one cares about him except me and his dad. He has two brothers and a sister and I know they love him, just normal sibling squabbles daily.

We had two referrals to camhs last year and they said he's just anxious. No one took him seriously.

So sorry you're going through this. Do you have the number of the local crisis team? If so give them a call. If not definitely take him to A&E. Might be quieter first thing tomorrow morning though.

I would also go to A & E as this is the quickest route to getting your DS help. It sounds as if he needs access to immediate support. If you phone 111 they may recommend going to GP who then may in turn refer your DS to CAAMHS and the waiting list can be very long. If you take him to the hospital he should be evaluated immediately.

TeddybearBaby a taxi would be a lot more appropriate than an ambulance.

Also I know we have had some bank holidays but its not Saturday!

Please take him OP you will be in childrens A&E away from the drunks.

Suicidal ideation is different from suicidal intent
People can be preoccupied by suicide and think about it without self harm or attempting attempt
This warrants further immediate follow up and assessment, esp given what you’ve said about previous distressed mental state

If he’s asleep and safe I’d go to A&E in morning,doesn’t appear there’s an immediate risk that warrants waking him up

Yes, he needs to be admitted.

Sorry crossposted and saw that he has had CAAMHS assessment in the past that didn't help. Take him to A&E as soon as you can.

As others have said, go to A&E. But while you’re waiting call Samaritans - 116123. Speak to them first and explain the situation and that you’re waiting to be seen professionally so they won’t act on it as a safeguarding concern. Then try and see if your son will speak to them. They won’t judge him or tell him what to do, but they’ll support him while you wait.
I really hope he gets the help he needs. And you too x

@TeddybearBaby ambulances are not taxis. It would not be appropriate to call one in these circumstances.

Can you sleep next to him - then if he wakes distressed take him to A&E. Also you can make sure of what he is doing...if he is having suicidal ideas it is best not to leave him alone xx

Jesus, so he's done extremely harmful things to himself before and the GP's haven't done anything? I would be pushing for an urgent referral to CAMHS and consider calling the crisis team tonight, stay with him OP as he's given a clear warning and cry for help. Poor boy

He needs an assessment to determine if he needs admitted
Other options are CAMHS home treatment tesm

If CAHMS said he was anxious, did they say what he was anxious about? Did they prescribe any kind of treatment or support? Have school said anything about his behaviour?

As he is asleep ring 111 and ask for advice for when he wakes.