To think buying a £52 eyeshadow pallet for 9 year old is just madness?

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I'm talking about the James Charles pallet. £52 for eyeshadow and blusher. My DD9 wants to spend her Christmas money on it but I have said a firm NO! A lot of her friends got it for Christmas (I know this is true as have seen their mothers show it off on Facebook). Each to their own and all that but £52! AIBU?

People let their 9 year olds wear make up these days? Good grief. I was astonished at the sight of year 6 girls wearing make up at the school disco and thought they all looked frankly ridiculous , but 9 year olds doing it?!

Glad I've got boys, if this is the kind of peer pressure primary school girls are under these days.

YANBU - how about you don't let her wear make up at all because she's 9 years old? Problem solved. You're welcome.

9 year olds shouldn't be wearing make up at all and I would he worried about a child who was already so aware of expensive brands/labels at such a young age. The fact that they even know about those brands suggests a lot of time spent online viewing content that is not meant for DC.
Those saying that it's "harmless" for primary aged DC to wear expensive make up and that a 9yo should have free reign to spend "her" money how she chooses should come to the secondary school where I work and meet some of my Year 7's. Do you want your DC at 11yo refusing to do PE because it'll mess up their hair and HD brows, being late for every lesson because they're obsessively checking their make up in the mirrors in the toilets and throwing away their packed lunches because they want a "thigh gap" like the models they follow on insta? Ask any secondary teacher, you can definitely tell the kids who've been allowed to grow up too quickly and the ones whose parents were willing to be strong and say 'no' once in a while.

Anyone claiming that they wear make-up for themselves is very sadly disillusioned and naive.

I wear make-up myself, because I look better with it (or at least better in the socially conditioned eyes of the society we live in). Men don't generally wear it because their sexuality is not traditionally tied to having luscious lips and alluring eyes. It's more about strength, ruggedness, power and wealth. Which is why some men parade their muscles, grow beards, drive flash cars etc. Make-up is definitely tied to sexuality- look how transsexual men use make-up to convince us of their femininity- they would just look like men without it!

Absolutely not, far too young. Whether it is her money or not is irrelevant.

@Fresta, that's one aspect of wearing make up. And it's an opinion not a fact. I'm 65, nothing on this planet could sexualise me, that ship sailed some time ago. I like the way a red lipstick brightens my face and I can go out without frightening the horses. It's purely for my benefit. I don't give a shit what anyone else thinks of me.

Get real Bluelady! If you don't care what anyone thinks of you then why do want your face brightened? You can't see yourself! (unless looking in a mirror).

Because it makes me feel better. Same reason as I wear a matching bra and knickers which nobody else sees. It's a little thing called self esteem.

Peachy Just asking because my parents saved some Christmas and birthday money etc because we had usually had loads of presents too and I thank them so much for it. All those £50 and £100 that I would have spent on crap added up and I had enough for a house deposit when the time came.^
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I'm sorry but this is unreal! I do not think the odd £50 and £100 will end up being a house deposit, not unless you bought your house 40 years ago! 🤣
I wear make up for me really, for example I'm happy to go to the local pub make up less, and yes, there are men in their, but if I'm meeting my girl friends I'll wear loads so I look good and my friends think I look nice too.
I hardly wear make up in the week and I'm happy not too.
I've spent £50 odd pounds on an eyeshadow palette, it was a limited edition Chanel and I treasure it, I hardly wear it but it's an object of beauty.
I wouldn't let a 9 yo buy that palette as it's horrible and it's too much money. I would consider maybe a nice lip gloss or something but not an artistry palette that's full of brights that won't really look good on anyone, and that would need good brushes to use.

Fresta you are talking total shite. Not everyone is chasing the cock!

And I know the op didn't buy the palette but I'm just adding my point of view, as the debate is still raging!

buster It’s nothing to do with ‘chasing the cock’ but if you need matching pants and bra and various things on your face to improve your self esteem, isn’t it worth analysing why that might be?

I am not saying I don’t wear make up. I do. I’m not criticising anyone who does. But there is nothing wrong with a little critical thought as to why we do these things.

52 quid....wow...

that's 5 years make up budget for me!

on the flip side, surely if its her money then its her choice?

9 is far too young to be buying make up. And 9 year olds need some guidance on how to spend their money. I would also be saying a firm 'no'.

The parents who have bought it for their children are daft, and I doubt very much that they're in the majority.

Fresta That's utter rubbish. I wear make up for me not anyone else. I'm on the asexual spectrum as well. I do it because I like it and makes me feel good. I'm certainly not out to get any man.

It’s so funny how so few men feel the compulsion to wear make up just for them, isn’t it?

@iamalwayslimethis, it's how I was brought up, it's why my gran never left the house without her hat and gloves, it's why my mum wore lipstick into her 90s and was always perfectly colour coordinated. They called it taking pride in yourself or keeping up standards. My self esteem doesn't depend on it, but it is an integral component and who are you to criticise me for it?

Point out my criticism please.

If you’re brought up to be racist/sexist/homophobic, is it ok then?

Should men also colour coordinate and make sure they’re wearing hat and gloves? Or is it only women who need to respect themselves in this manner?

You may not have noticed but men and women aren't the same. As for comparing a bit of harmless vanity with racism and homophobia - you crack on, I can't be bothered with it.

How are men and women not the same?

I was very into make up as a 9 year old. I wanted to look like Adam Ant. And those backing dancers from the Dr And The Medics. Still do a bit.

However, I'd be reluctant to let a 9 year old spend £52 on one pallet (or however you spell it). It may last an adult who takes care of it a long time but a child most likely won't and that's £52 down the swanny then. MUA, Revolution, Barry M and Sleek do great makeup at a fraction of the cost I'd be tempted to show her just how much she can get for that kind of money and wait till she's a bit older to crack out the pro stuff.

How are men and women not the same?

For one, penis and wombs.

For the other, society has assigned different roles and expectations. It still does. Gender stereotyping is alive and well.

lweji do penis and wombs have some kind of impact on what is an deemed acceptable standard for what goes on our face when we go outside now?

I've loved make up since I was about 17, it's a huge passion of mine, even after I met a man and got married. I love clothes too. I'm not after another man, and I certainly still feel attractive without it, I know I'm not ugly and I have great skin and pretty nice features, but why would I always want to look the same? I live rocking fuchsia lipstick, purple eye shadow. Short dresses, tight jeans, baggy dresses, loose cut off jeans. I'm not looking for sex or am I trying to make my lips look like a vagina. I just love clothes and make up.

buster I don’t think it’s about trying to get a man.

i think it’s about society telling women they aren’t acceptable without 17 different things on their face.