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To ask if anybody on here is pro-life?

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Teeandee · 28/12/2018 15:02

When it comes to the subject of abortion I've noticed a high number of people on here are very pro-choice and support abortion. Is there anybody else, like me, who doesn't?

Everybody is entitled to their opinion of course and I don't think badly of anybody who has had a termination and I don't judge. It's only my personal outlook and life experiences that shape my view and was wondering if I really am in the minority here?

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AnxiousMama101 · 30/12/2018 00:24

"How can adding trauma to trauma help a person move on"

Unplanned pregnancies can be traumatic.

The positive test is traumatic; making a woman carry that foetus to term would have been traumatic; handing over the baby to be adopted would have been traumatic.
For some, a termination is a better option, no matter what the reason.

Burnt0range · 30/12/2018 00:29

Drogosnextwife...

So the children should die? Based on inconvenience? They deserve a chance! They shouldn't be murdered based on their level of dependancy! If that was the case, should we go and kill all of the old people in care homes?

What an absolutely ridiculous "argument" and excuse for the mass murder of babies in the womb.

Drogosnextwife · 30/12/2018 00:34

So the children should die? Based on inconvenience? They deserve a chance! They shouldn't be murdered based on their level of dependancy! If that was the case, should we go and kill all of the old people in care homes?

When did I say anything about inconvenience or a child's level of dependency? I said a life of neglect and mental abuse is no life a child should have to suffer. What would your solution be? Let them suffer it and see how they turn out?

Drogosnextwife · 30/12/2018 00:37

For example, Born into a situation with an alcoholic mother dependant on drugs, living in an unheated and dirty house. No heating or food, being left alone or put in dangerous situations. You think that is any kind of life for a child?

Drogosnextwife · 30/12/2018 00:38

Children are not always taken into care and given a lovely home, believe me.

PawsPurrsAndWhiskers · 30/12/2018 00:53

I am pro choice.

But it is awful when women get pregnant because they and their partner are not being careful with contraception. I remember when I was a teenager and in my early 20s. So many people I know had sex without contraception/didn't use it every time/were on the pill but forgot to take it and didn't worry. I found their attitudes really immature. The women used the morning after pill and some ended up having abortions which were preventable. I know some people are careful and still get pregnant but many pregnancies happen because people are careless. Most people won't get pregnant if they use contraception correctly.

More education is needed for both women and men about the importance of contraception everytime you have sex if you don't want to get pregnant and obviously to prevent STDs.

OkPedro · 30/12/2018 00:56

Wow smokypig everyone should suffer or die in order for a potential life to survive?
I was pregnant in 2012 with my second child. I started to bleed at 8 weeks. Had numerous tests, scans etc. I couldn't sleep or eat. I was sick with worry. I was working and taking care of a toddler. I had a partner, family and friends. I was told at 12 weeks that there was no amniotic fluid surrounding my baby. In some cases the fluid can replenish itself but further tests showed my baby had no kidneys. I live in Ireland and at that time I was offered no help whatsoever. It was basically get on with it. I did a lot of research and discovered my baby would be in pain because of the lack of fluid. There was no chance he could survive (I only found out after the post mortem that he was male)
I had to endure 8 more weeks of a wait and see. If the baby had a heart beat then nothing could be done to help me. What about me? What about my daughter, partner and my Mam who was worried sick about me. So many "pro life" ignore the woman and her family. My poor baby had no chance at life yet his "life" was more important than mine?
I can accept people are uncomfortable with the idea of abortion and will never have one themselves, but how dare you judge others when you haven't even walked a step in their shoes

EmeraldShamrock · 30/12/2018 01:23

OkPedro To many women have experienced this Flowers
There is no black or white or simple solution. I am glad things are changing here for the future. Attitudes need to catch up.

Drogosnextwife · 30/12/2018 01:24

My aunt found herself in that situation, her much wanted baby had no chance of survival and was putting her life at risk. She lived in Ireland and had to travel to the UK for an abortion. It broke her heart and was only made worse by the situation being prolonged.

HotSauceCommittee · 30/12/2018 01:30

I am pro-life. Once children are born, I believe in their right to a quality education, safe, clean living conditions, a good diet with their parents earning a living wage no matter what they do and don’t have to use food banks. No child should ever go hungry or be abused or die at the hands of abusers, so I’m pro-life. Telling women what to do with theirs bodies, no, not so much.
That’s the problem: “ carry the baby, that’s your punishment for being a slut. Then when it’s born, tough shit; you’re on your own”.

OkPedro · 30/12/2018 01:45

Absolutely hotsaucecommitee
Single mothers? Should have kept their legs closed
Baby has zero chance? You should sacrifice everything so the baby can be born. Had sex without contraception? Tough shit you get what you deserve

bumbleymummy · 30/12/2018 04:45

MyDC, from a medical point of view, pregnancy starts at implantation. That’s when the pregnancy hormones start to be released. Around 2/3 of fertilised embryos won’t actually implant. Abortion is the termination of a pregnancy So if the MAP does not work on implanted embryos then it will not be considered abortive.

bumbleymummy · 30/12/2018 04:51

Nonsense OkPedeo. All pro-life people are not like that. Most of the ones I know do plenty to help women and children and there are charities to support pregnant women with housing etc.

bumbleymummy · 30/12/2018 04:51

Pro-life charities

squeekums · 30/12/2018 05:31

Im pro choice. I dont need a reason why someone wants to abort, its their body, their choice.

It could be swung that im pro life. The life of the woman, her life is more important than a mere potential. Im pro protecting her life

APositiveMind · 30/12/2018 09:50

On a non factual note.
When I read someone is pro-life, I imagine a unemployed, full time yummy mummy with 6 children and another on the way because she's pro-life running out of benefits.

Drogosnextwife · 30/12/2018 09:58

When I read someone is pro-life, I imagine a unemployed, full time yummy mummy with 6 children and another on the way because she'spro-liferunning out of benefits.

Ok then, great input there Hmm

APositiveMind · 30/12/2018 10:00

@drogosnextwife.

I got bored of reading the same thing over and over, wanted to lighten the mood a little.

Drogosnextwife · 30/12/2018 10:10

Well I see your point there. When there are 35 pages people shouldnt come on and give there opinion or argument and presume it's not been put forward already.

Rose87777 · 30/12/2018 10:25

Strongly pro life with love and compassion to those who have had abortions. I watched a video of what actually happens during a termination and it haunts me to this day.

ConcreteUnderpants · 30/12/2018 11:10

Totally pro-choice here.
For whatever reason and as early as possible, as late as necessary.

FeatherStrong · 30/12/2018 11:15

Pro-life here.

Tho I can fully understand why being pregnant or having a baby might not be a positive outcome.
Yet I value that those pregnancies are lives in and of themselves.

A miscarriage being commiserated or mourned as a lost life and an abortion being accepted...the only difference is the mother's view. They're both potential babies lives that ended. But it doesn't fit the pro-abortion/choice narrative to acknowledge the reality of abortion is extinguishing life. I'd respect pro-abortion stances more if they stated the facts and reality of it, not used language that covers it up, like "Just a bunch of cells".

I have the same opinion on other pro-life matters, like war.
An adults view dictates whether it's a tragic loss of life, or it's 'justifiable'.
Someone shot with a gun has lost their life, it's not ok to punish someone people as armed criminals and celebrate the military as heroes just because it's government sanctioned.

However, I can respectfully accept that my views will differ to others.

BertrandRussell · 30/12/2018 11:15

“I watched a video of what actually happens during a termination and it haunts me to this day.”

A SPUC video by any chance?

BertrandRussell · 30/12/2018 11:16

“A miscarriage being commiserated or mourned as a lost life and an abortion being accepted...the only difference is the mother's view.”
Of course. That is rather the point.

Raspberry88 · 30/12/2018 11:25

An adults view dictates whether it's a tragic loss of life, or it's 'justifiable'.
Someone shot with a gun has lost their life, it's not ok to punish someone people as armed criminals and celebrate the military as heroes just because it's government sanctioned.
So what is your view on a conflict such as the second world war? Do you think those men who fought against Hitler's fascism were just armed criminals? I'm sorry, the world is just far more complicated than your ideals. I think it is a great privilege to be able to look at the world in such a way.
A miscarriage being commiserated or mourned as a lost life and an abortion being accepted...the only difference is the mother's view.
Well, yes, exactly! The difference is whether you believe that was a life being lost or just the potential for life. I don't believe that it is a life yet.