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To ask if anybody on here is pro-life?

999 replies

Teeandee · 28/12/2018 15:02

When it comes to the subject of abortion I've noticed a high number of people on here are very pro-choice and support abortion. Is there anybody else, like me, who doesn't?

Everybody is entitled to their opinion of course and I don't think badly of anybody who has had a termination and I don't judge. It's only my personal outlook and life experiences that shape my view and was wondering if I really am in the minority here?

OP posts:
Drogosnextwife · 29/12/2018 22:39

speakout

Never presume anything about anyone. Or judge.
I am not pro life.

Cattenberg · 29/12/2018 22:42

I'm in the grey area.

I know that pregnancy and childbirth carry risks and can be terrifying for the mother. And I'm not comfortable with other people dictating wha a woman does with her body. But if being pro-choice means supporting abortion "at any time for any reason", then I'm not pro-choice.

I just don't believe that a foetus should have no rights at all, especially one that is potentially viable outside the uterus or has reached the stage of awareness or being able to feel pain. At the very least, I believe that they shouldn't be caused unnecessary pain or suffering.

I'm glad that late abortions are relatively rare and are usually only carried out for serious medical reasons. My heart goes out to anyone having a TFMR as that must be incredibly hard.

Christmasisforadults2 · 29/12/2018 22:48

So do 'pro lifers' think that fathers have a right to decide as well? As it 50% theirs?
Should fathers be given part legal control over the pregnant women, make decisions about birth and food consumed etc?

Drogosnextwife · 29/12/2018 22:49

Contraception and abortion are not the same in my opinion. Although to some they are.
Abortion is ridding the body of an implanted embryo, contraception prevents a fertilized egg implanting or prevents an egg being fertilized (if that makes it better for you). So no I do not have a problem using contraception and would use the morning after pill if required. I can't say for sure that I would never under any circumstances have an abortion, I would like to the k I wouldn't but there is no knowing what the future holds.

formerbabe · 29/12/2018 22:50

Drogosnextwife

You're not pro life? I am so confused now as to what your overall point is?

bumbleymummy · 29/12/2018 23:13

The MAP works by delaying/preventing ovulation. NHS link

Drogosnextwife · 29/12/2018 23:16

No I'm not. I'm not sure why you wpuld think I was. My only points have been, its a fact that if you have sec there is a risk you will become pregnant. In my opinion a life is a life at the point of conception.
Am I only allowed to have those views if I am pro life?

MyDcAreMarvel · 29/12/2018 23:19

The MAP also makes the womb lining hostile, preventing a fertilised embryo from attaching. It can be abortative , a women would never know if that’s how it worked in their case.

Drogosnextwife · 29/12/2018 23:21

Emergency contraception doesn't cause an abortion.

One at the facts from that like, so whoever asked if I believe contraception or the MAP is an early abortion, no I don't, the NHS have cleared that up.

HTKS · 29/12/2018 23:22

Of course life begins at conception. At what other point could it possibly begin?

Drogosnextwife · 29/12/2018 23:22

Link, not like

Drogosnextwife · 29/12/2018 23:24

Of course life begins at conception. At what other point could it possibly begin?

A few people has expressed that they don't consider a foetus as a life until it can survive on its on.

HTKS · 29/12/2018 23:25

My 7 year old couldn’t survive on his own....

Drogosnextwife · 29/12/2018 23:27

Well yes, exactly. Someone made that point aswell.

HTKS · 29/12/2018 23:28

Sorry, thought I’d RTFT.....

bumbleymummy · 29/12/2018 23:29

MyDC, it isn’t effective if implantation has occurred so not abortive.

Drogosnextwife · 29/12/2018 23:32

it isn’t effective if implantation has occurred so not abortive.

That's why I can't understand why people who say if you don't believe in abortion you shouldn't be using contraception.

Drogosnextwife · 29/12/2018 23:37

Sorry, thought I’d RTFT.....

You might have, I could be thinking of a previous thread I was on recently bit I think it was on here. If I'm wrong I apologise.

MyDcAreMarvel · 29/12/2018 23:51

MyDC, it isn’t effective if implantation has occurred so not abortive.
Life starts at fetlisation not implantation .

smokypig · 29/12/2018 23:51

I am entirely anti abortion and pro life in all cases. Including the protection of vulnerable/sick/dying children, adults and elderly people! It is completely black and white for me. I have several friends who have had abortions though and have been able to respond compassionately to them. It breaks my heart reading threads on here. I can't understand how an abortion can ever be a solution. Even in the worst cases. How can adding trauma to trauma help a person move on. I hope this response doesn't get lost and I'm able to give some hope in that you aren't alone!

formerbabe · 29/12/2018 23:54

I can't understand how an abortion can ever be a solution. Even in the worst cases. How can adding trauma to trauma help a person move on

Because the trauma of continuing the pregnancy would be worse than the trauma of a termination.

JillScarlet · 29/12/2018 23:55

“My 7 year old couldn’t survive on his own....”

But he isn’t in your body and / or entirely dependent on your body for his survival. A friend’s Mum or Dad can get him his tea etc.

Drogosnextwife · 30/12/2018 00:02

smokypig

There was a post maybe 20 pages ago where someone gave 3 real life situations in which abortion was nessacary. If You find it and read it and still think that the best option for at least 2 of those women was to carry on with the pregnancy, I would be surprised. Infact not even for the women, for the children that would have to endure the life the would have to live. Even if there is a chance their lives would get better as they got older, no child deserves to go through a life of neglect.

Drogosnextwife · 30/12/2018 00:03

And forcing the pregnancy to continue and have the child adopted is not an option. There just aren't that many people willing to adopt so a lot of children will be bounced around the care system.

HTKS · 30/12/2018 00:21

Jill, I'm pro choice. I'm also pro fact, which is that life begins at fertilisation. I have no problem with taking life in certain circumstances... I use Dettol, eat chicken, and support abortion on demand until 24 weeks. After that point I still support TOP, but cannot see how it can be practically managed, so do not want the law changed.

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