To ask if anybody on here is pro-life?

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When it comes to the subject of abortion I've noticed a high number of people on here are very pro-choice and support abortion. Is there anybody else, like me, who doesn't?

Everybody is entitled to their opinion of course and I don't think badly of anybody who has had a termination and I don't judge. It's only my personal outlook and life experiences that shape my view and was wondering if I really am in the minority here?

Am I wrong then? I had an abortion at 19, it was a foetus not a baby and so I don’t see it as life. I always wondered whether I should have felt remorse but to be honest the only emotion I felt was relief. I genuinely don’t see it as a life being taken until the baby could survive if born and even then I’m not always against that

I think forcing women to go through pregnancy and childbirth against their will is basically torture, so I certainly hope being 'pro-life' is a minority position.

I am pro choice.

I wouldn't personally have an abortion myself as I don't think I could go through with it but I would never expect the choice to be stripped from anyone.

The thing I really don't get about pro-lifers, particularly relevant during the Irish referendum, is the fact they get a choice (by way of vote), to strip someone else of their choice, whether it affects them or not.

Pro-life... involved in the abortion debate advocating against the practice of abortion and its legality. (Wiki)

Do you think abortion is always wrong?
Do you believe abortion should be illegal?

If not, you're Pro-choice.

Yes. I am pro life. I am pro women’s lives. Pro the life of women already here. I am also pro choice. If you don’t approve of abortion, don’t have one.

Maybe an unpopular opinion.
I believe abortion should be a choice if the fetus is likely to develop abnormalities, or if pregnancy is endangering woman's life (or in case of a rape, although I still personally think the baby should not be a victim). Everything else is unfortunately utterly selfish. Wear a condom/use contraceptives or don't have sex if you do not know how to do it safely. I'm sorry, but reading about people who abort a pregnancy because they had sex and then realised they didn't want a child/changed their mind/didn't use contraception-is pure idiocy. Being an adult is also a responsibility, not just fun and then turning around and saying 'All I wanted was a fun night'.

Agree with SantyClaws. If you don't agree with it don't do it?

Pro choice people tend to have a live and let live attitude to what women should do with their own bodies and no one is forcing anyone to have a termination.

Unfortunately, a lot of pro livers seem to think it's their right to force their views on everyone else, and most of them seem to feel they have the right to judge and condemn anyone who feels differently from them. All that makes me very uncomfortable around them.

Personally, I'm very much pro choice.

Pro choice within the current legal limits here.

I do think we need more support and kindness towards women. Whether or not that is access to abortions more easily, being able to rescind a child for adoption with no judgement, or supporting her so that she can keep her child.

Noone should have to abort a child they want for financial reasons in one of the richest countries in the world. Nor should they have to abort as they fear a permanent tie to an abuser - the woman and child should be protected in law.

BertrandRussell - just out of curiosity, would you apply your argument elsewhere? 'If you don't want to kill, don't kill' -but would you be happy for others to commit murder?

ladyrenoir but mistakes happen, contraception doesn’t always work. Is it better to bring a baby into the world who isn’t wanted and in a situation that isn’t prepared for a child?

Not entirely pro life as I do support abortions up to 9 weeks. 9-12 weeks I only tolerate. After that I'm against abortions unless it puts the mother's life in danger or if the baby has a gene defect and e.g. would die painfully at birth.

I don't believe in women having a choice until birth for whatever reason.

So not pro life nor completely pro but a grey area it seems.

I do however judge a healthy woman for aborting a healthy baby after 12 weeks, so you're kinder than I in that regard.

ladyrenoir it’s not the same as murder. When you murder someone, you take a life away. A foetus doesn’t have a life, it hasn’t experienced the world and cannot think- it’s a bundle of cells.

not completely pro *choice

@LadyRenoir

So your objection to abortion is more to do with punishing women for daring to enjoy sex? If you believe abortion is more acceptable in the case of rape, then what you are actually saying to women whose pregnancy is the result of consensual sex is that an unwanted pregnancy and forced birth is a suitable punishment for willingly having sex.

What would be the purpose of forcing a woman to continue a pregnancy that she doesn't feel she can cope with just because she chose to have sex LadyRenoir? Is it a punishment for having sex? Contraception can fail, women can be in difficult relationships, lack capacity, have addictions, troubled backgrounds, all sorts of things. Saying everything other than saving the mother's life or rape is selfish is a bit simplistic don't you think?

Everybody is entitled to their opinion of course and I don't think badly of anybody who has had a termination and I don't judge

Then you’re pro-choice

I don’t believe in the concept of “pro-life”. It’s actually “pro-birth”.

You’re not pro-life, you’re anti-choice.
You’re pro-birth.

Just like the way people aren’t pro-abortion, they’re pro-choice.

I am personally pro life and at this moment I can say I would never have an abortion and if it were my decision others wouldn't either, but I recognise that it is not my decision and I have no right to expect others to share my views and that it is an incredibly difficult and personal decision that only the individual can make. I'd never condemn or call anyone that chooses to have one. It's not a decision that anyone goes into lightly, it's something that they'll agonise over and worry and cry about both before and after and they'll carry that with them in some form or another. I also think that the rights of the mother to not carry on with a pregnancy for whatever reason is just as valid as the rights of the fetus.

I won't do something because it infringes on my religion and moral beliefs but thats my decision and should have no effect on anyone else. I have no right to push my views as 'correct' as they most likely won't be for many people and that's fine. If a friend or family member had an abortion I would support them and help them through it and not judge them because that is their right and the last thing they need is my judgment at what is I'd imagine a difficult and traumatic time.

The pro life activists I see offer no support to struggling parents. They don't care if the child is born into abuse or extreme poverty. Just as long as its born.

I had a termination at 23+5 for 'social', reasons.
It saved my life.

The opposite of pro choice would be to force women to continue a pregnancy she doesn't want, could be for many different reasons: Abuse, rape, fetal abnormalities, mental health detoriation, dangerous to mothers health or just simply failed contraception.

Whilst I Personally have my limits of what I would and wouldn't do, we have to trust that women are making a choice that's best for them in their situation. And simply no one else's business.

@WhatOnEarthDoIDoNow That sounds pro choice to me. You would support and judge a friend going through and abortion and you don't expect to force your views on others. That is pro choice. Even if you wouldn't have an abortion yourself.

Im shades of grey here. I was very much pro life when I was younger, had a child quite young and thought if I can do it so can anyone else, as I have got older I realise the world is a much more complicated place and there are definitely situations where people shouldn't carry on with a pregnancy. The thought of abortion makes me quite upset because of what it entails. In my opinion a life starts from day one of conception and hate the thought of a life being taken away. I also believe that no one should be forced into a life they do not want, however in my experience, most of the people I know who have had abortions could have done a lot more to make sure they didn't end up pregnant in the first place and a few have went on to have a child within a year of the abortion, which I find hard to comprehend.

shade of gray. I worked as a translator on the NHS and had to be present at abortion a couple of times. Most unpleasant experience. I'm generally pro-choice as in against forced birthing. But... those abortions were a result of total ignorance and selfishness and... I just don't know how to describe. Having a 5th (!) abortion just because you don't believe/can't be arsed to take a pill or use any other contraceptive

Your op sounds like you are pro choice just wouldn’t have an abortion yourself. Having had fertility problems I don’t think I could have one unless it was the most dire of circumstances, I am firmly pro choice though.