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To ask if anybody on here is pro-life?

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Teeandee · 28/12/2018 15:02

When it comes to the subject of abortion I've noticed a high number of people on here are very pro-choice and support abortion. Is there anybody else, like me, who doesn't?

Everybody is entitled to their opinion of course and I don't think badly of anybody who has had a termination and I don't judge. It's only my personal outlook and life experiences that shape my view and was wondering if I really am in the minority here?

OP posts:
speakout · 29/12/2018 22:05

Drogosnextwife

No- contraception does not always stop fertilization, but will stop pregnancy.

If you believe life starts at conception and do not believe in termination you should not be using the coil or pill.

JacquesHammer · 29/12/2018 22:08

No it's fact that contraception stops an eggs from being fertilized, that's why it's is CONTRA-caption, the opposite of conception. When the sperm enters the egg, the egg is fertilized, which means a life has been conceived

You need to read up on contraception.

Drogosnextwife · 29/12/2018 22:12

Birth control doesnot destroy thatfertilized egg, it simply prevents ovulation,fertilization, or both from occurring. Nofertilized egg, no pregnancy. Therearemany kinds ofbirth controland they all work in similar ways.

Direct quote from Google. Pregnancy is only a result if the contraception fails, contraception does not destroy a fertilized egg. That's called a contraception failure.

alansleftfoot · 29/12/2018 22:14

What is the MAP then ?

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 29/12/2018 22:17

Drogosnextwife

I feel that women should always have full autonomy over their own body

So yes I agree that a women should be able to have the choice to have a termination for whatever reason and when she feels it is right to

Drogosnextwife · 29/12/2018 22:17

If I am correct the implant will stop a fertilized egg from implantation, there may be another for that stops this. The MAP stops implantation of a fertilized egg, but isn't called contraception because it should not be taken regularly.

Drogosnextwife · 29/12/2018 22:18

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed

As do I.

JacquesHammer · 29/12/2018 22:18

Direct quote from Google

But not a complete definition.

One of the ways the coil works for example is preventing a fertilised egg from implanting.

speakout · 29/12/2018 22:20

Drogosnextwife

You need some education.

Fertilization will often happen- as in the case of the copper coil, but will prevent the fertilized egg from developing and will be flushed out of the woman's body.
The pill works by several methods, on any one ocassion it is impossible to say by which method a pregnancy does not happen, but again like the coil one of the mechanisms is to make the uterine wall hostile to a fertilized egg, this disposing of a product of fertilization.

If you believe that life begins at fertilization and are pro life then these methods ar not for you.

alansleftfoot · 29/12/2018 22:20

The MAP is known as emergency contraception. Doesn't have to be used regularly to earn the name, that's nonsense.

blackteasplease · 29/12/2018 22:21

I feel I'm very late to this party.

I'm pro choice but don't think I'd ever have had an abortion myself because both times I was pregnant I got instantly attached to the idea of the baby. But that's just me.

Drogosnextwife · 29/12/2018 22:21

If you believe life starts at conception and do not believe in termination you should not be using the coil or pill.

That's a bit controlling, to try and dictate that a woman shouldn't use contraception if she doesn't agree with abortion. What an odd opinion to have.

blackteasplease · 29/12/2018 22:21

I mean I think j would have been the same even if it wasn't practical to have the baby at the time, I.e. even if I was young or didn't have any money.

alansleftfoot · 29/12/2018 22:24

If fertilisation has occurred do you consider the MAP to be an early form of abortion Drogo ?

speakout · 29/12/2018 22:24

Drogosnextwife

I am playing devils advocate here.

Some pro lifers are OK with contraception- I am pointing out there may be hypocracy here.

JacquesHammer · 29/12/2018 22:25

That's a bit controlling, to try and dictate that a woman shouldn't use contraception if she doesn't agree with abortion. What an odd opinion to have

That’s not what was said. You said:-

When the sperm enters the egg, the egg is fertilized, which means a life has been conceived

Given some forms of contraception work by preventing implantation of an already fertilised egg, surely that makes them difficult for you to use?

speakout · 29/12/2018 22:26

Drogosnextwife

Do you consider a coil or pill to be abortion then ?

Now that you know the facts?

TheLazyDuchess · 29/12/2018 22:27

Having felt ds move about inside me, at about 19 weeks, (can happen at 17), the baby does feel "alive" inside you at that point, it used to be refered to as "the quickening" I think? And was a sign all was well in the pregnancy. The current abortion limit in most of the uk is 24 weeks (when a foetus is considered viable outside the womb?), but I think something like 9/10 abortions are carried out before 13 weeks gestation/the first trimester? I'd imagine most late term abortions are fetal abnormalities diagnosed at 20 weeks? Sad

I live in N.I, it's still illegal here. If someone wants one, they can access it, but it usually involves risking buying pills online, and facing prosecution if something goes wrong and medical intervention is needed, or a trip oversea's (and all the added costs).

Drogosnextwife · 29/12/2018 22:31

Hmm I'm not sure.

Even if an egg becomes fertilized it does not make it to implantation if contraception is effective.

Perhaps I do believe that as soon as fertilization occurs a life has been made, why does that mean I can't use contraception?

JacquesHammer · 29/12/2018 22:32

but I think something like 9/10 abortions are carried out before 13 weeks gestation/the first trimester? I'd imagine most late term abortions are fetal abnormalities diagnosed at 20 weeks?

IIRC the stats for England and Wales are around 90% of abortions are prior to 13 weeks, 80% are prior to 10 weeks and 0.1% are over 24 weeks.

Drogosnextwife · 29/12/2018 22:33

Given some forms of contraception work by preventing implantation of an already fertilised egg, surely that makes them difficult for you to use?

😂 why would it make it difficult for me to use them?

JacquesHammer · 29/12/2018 22:35

why would it make it difficult for me to use them?

Well you believe a life is created on fertilisation...if the method of contraception is preventing a fertilised egg ergo a life in your opinion implanting, how would you justify using them? When potentially every month they’re destroying “a life”?

speakout · 29/12/2018 22:36

Drogosnextwife

I assumed you are a "pro lifer".

Drogosnextwife · 29/12/2018 22:37

Well you believe a life is created on fertilisation...if the method of contraception is preventing a fertilised egg ergo a life in your opinion implanting, how would you justify using them? When potentially every month they’re destroying “a life”?

Why would I need to justify it? And why would you think I have a problem with it?

speakout · 29/12/2018 22:38

Drogosnextwife

I think we are curious about your position, that's all.

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