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DP won't marry. Is it me or is it him?

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Teeandee · 26/12/2018 16:12

DP and i have been together a few years, one child and a second on the way.

We'd spoken about marriage after being together for about 12 months and we were getting serious. I was lead to believe it was on the cards and was something he wanted too, so I had no concerns about starting a family about a year later. He's a good provider, supportive and a good father.

He's been engaged twice before but never made it up the isle. His first engagement was in his very early twenties but she left him for somebody else.

His second engagement was to an ex he was with for six years and has a child to, who he later told me he'd only proposed to because her family were putting on the pressure to "make an honest woman out of her" so he did it to make her and them happy. They eventually broke up but he continues to pay child maintenance and sees his DD regularly so he hasn't been evading his responsibilities.

He's not a serial romancer and has only had three significant relationships in his adult life, the two I've mentioned then me.

With our DC2 on the way I began to press the subject of marriage and he now tells me he really doesn't want to get married, never has, and that it's not "me" he doesn't want to marry, it's anybody.

This is when he tells me about his heart not being in it when he proposed to his ex, and says he doesn't think he'd have gone through with a wedding because it's not something he ever wanted, but felt pushed into by her and her parents.

I'm understandably upset because I was lead to believe it was something he wanted, only to be told it's definitely not.

What's going on here, is it me or is it him? Is he spinning me a line about not wanting to marry 'anyone'

FTR I'm not remotely concerned about being left in the lurch with DC and no support, house is in my name and I have my own money. I can see he's somebody who provides for his DC regardless of whether he's with the mum. It was about love for me and not money Xmas Sad

OP posts:
RDR2 · 27/12/2018 10:09

The old saying that it takes two to tango applies here.

The OP put her biological urge to procreate with a suitably attractive male ahead of legal commitment.

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 27/12/2018 10:10

The OP put her biological urge to procreate with a suitably attractive male ahead of legal commitment

Crikey mate, she’s not a mountain gorilla

WaterOffaDucksCrack · 27/12/2018 10:57

I've been in plenty of long-term relationships and never got pregnant or had a baby because I refused to have unprotected sex with a man I wasn't married to wowee well done! Contraception can fail you know. I refused to have unprotected sex with my ex. Didn't stop him from repeatedly raping me until I got pregnant and he fucked off! Obviously a good thing he fucked off as I was abused for so long and I have my amazing son. But it does piss me off that I am the one who gets judged for "choosing my situation".

YoungLennyGodber · 27/12/2018 11:41

@WaterOffaDucksCrack
I’m sorry that happened to you. No one would judge you in that situation. I’m sure you’ll agree it’s an uncommon one.

NameChangeNugget · 27/12/2018 11:51

I think YABU. Why is your urge to get married, greater than his not to?

FaithFrank · 27/12/2018 12:03

Her 'urge' to get married is not more important than his desire to marry. OP never said she feels that way.

The real issue is that he lied to her when they had that first conversation. She made life decisions based on what he said. If she had known the truth about his feelings, she might have made different decisions.

No she knows the truth she is re-evaluating her life and trying to decide how to proceed. Entirely reasonable in my opinion.

Missingstreetlife · 27/12/2018 12:42

Make sure you claim child benefit. It gives you ni credits toward state pension

YoungLennyGodber · 27/12/2018 12:50

She made life decisions based on what he said. If she had known the truth about his feelings, she might have made different decisions.

I’ll say it again - a person who does this is being foolish. People can say any old shit. It’s just words. It’s their actions that count. If someone wants to get married, and their other half is just stringing them along saying all the right stuff but never following through - leave. Anyone who makes life decisions based on pretty words is not just being fooled, they are a fool.

Oldbutstillgotit · 27/12/2018 13:07

Years ago, when living together wasn’t so common , a friend of mine had a baby to her boyfriend who didn’t want to get married as his parents weren’t keen on her. Sadly he was killed in an accident. His parents received everything- house, insurance, savings and she had to fight for money for her child. The law may well have changed but you really need to protect yourself.

thebaronetofcockburn · 27/12/2018 13:19

Precisely. Anyone can say they want to get married one day. If you want marriage then bloody well insist on it before you have children!

This. I've also got a number of friends who have been 'engaged' for years and years. Every time they bring up actually getting married, he trots out a stalling technique. Their engagement is totally meaningless.

For the OP, it's all damage control/limitation now as she's expecting a second child. I think I'd couch any discussion in terms of the legal aspects of being unmarried partners and how to approach that.

That is, OP, if you want to stay with him, and that is your decision.

And if he brings up the 'all just pieces of paper' I'd tell him, 'Look, can we talk about this like mature adults? There are many crucial 'pieces of paper' in life: a will, a passport, a title deed, a driving license. You don't want to get married, fine, but we need to hope for the best but plan for the worst like responsible adults and have a sensible discussion about (and here's where you swot up on what you need to cover legally and list it).'

If he balks at discussing even that, it's pretty telling that he's not committed in any way and wants to make it possible for him to walk off at any time completely unfettered.

In no way reduce your hours after this child is born. In fact I'd ask him to take part of the parental leave, see how he reacts. He's such a 'good dad' it should be no problem for him. I'm surprised he's not offering.

thebaronetofcockburn · 27/12/2018 13:21

The law may well have changed but you really need to protect yourself.

No, it hasn't. But your friend's boyfriend obviously wasn't too keen on her, either, because he could have made a will to protect her and his child.

Shitmewithyourrhythmstick · 27/12/2018 14:13

He could've and should've. The reality is that people don't. And cohabitants are less likely than married couples to do it, when it should be the other way round really. I don't personally think it's about being more or less keen particularly, more that lots of people are just a bit shit at this kind of thing. Or don't like thinking about their own mortality, or both.

In the case described it sounds like he might've even done a will, pension nomination etc in favour of his parents before getting partnered up and having kids, as otherwise the children would benefit ahead of parents. That would really be appallingly lax of him not to update it.

But this is why long term cohabitation should be an active choice, not something you sleepwalk into.

Missingstreetlife · 27/12/2018 17:39

She is not a single parent, just not married to the father

WaterOffaDucksCrack · 27/12/2018 19:52

YoungLennyGodber People do judge me for that. And you must live a charmed life to believe it's uncommon!

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