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***WARNING DISTRESSING CONTENT*** 139 Women murdered by men in 2017

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CaveMum · 18/12/2018 10:26

I know IANBU but posting here for traffic.

The 2017 Femicide Census was released late yesterday, detailing the women murdered in the UK by men during 2017. Here’s the Guardian’s coverage

DISTRESSING CONTENT

Three-quarters of women killed by men in the UK in 2017 knew the perpetrator, according to a report on femicide.

The Femicide Census, conducted by Women’s Aid and the campaigner Karen Ingala Smith, found that of the 139 women known to have been killed by men in the UK last year, 105 (76%) knew their killer. Thirty women were killed by strangers, with 21 of the 30 killed in terrorist attacks.

The report found that 64 of the women, or 46%, were killed by a current or former intimate partner. Another 24 (17%) were killed by a man known to them – such as a colleague, neighbour or friend – while 17 (12%) were killed by a male family member, of whom 10 were killed by their son. The perpetrator’s relationship to the victim could not be established in four cases.

A sharp instrument was used as a weapon in 66 cases, or 47%, while 82 (59%) were killed at home. More than half of women killed by a former partner were killed within the first month of separation; almost 90% of the same subset were killed within the first year of separation.

For the first time, the Femicide Census collected data on “overkilling”, killings where the force or method used was greater than that required to kill the victim. “Overkilling” was evident in 58 (42%) of the cases.

In one case, a victim was stabbed 175 times, while in others women were “hit 40 times with an axe”, “bludgeoned repeatedly” and “battered virtually beyond all recognition”.

Ingala Smith, the chief executive of the domestic violence charity Nia, said: “The use of excessive violence or desecration after death challenges narratives of momentary loss of control that are especially prevalent in relation to domestic violence.

“Instead it highlights the brutality and misogyny that men bring to their violence against women whether dead or alive and challenges benign rationales given by men which are often accepted and repeated in media coverage of the killings of women.”

Smith said the report challenged widely held assumptions about the nature of violence in society. “The dominant perception of knife crime is one of young men and street violence yet the Femicide Census tells us that 47% of women were killed by knives or sharp objects; in fact, this is the most common method used by men to kill women,” she said.

“It may also surprise some to learn that 40% of women killed by men were aged over 45 and 14% were over the age of 66. Where analyses of violent crime do not look at sex disaggregated data, violence against women continues to be overlooked and made invisible.”

Katie Ghose, the chief executive of Women’s Aid, called on the government to ensure its domestic abuse bill, due to be published imminently, delivered both the legislation and the resources needed to respond effectively to domestic abuse.

“Time and time again, we hear of cases where a woman has been killed by a man as an ‘isolated incident’; yet the latest Femicide Census report shows yet again that this is not the case,” she said. “The majority of these cases are not isolated incidents. There are too many similarities in the circumstances where women are killed by men.”

The Femicide Census contains information on more than 1,000 women killed by men in England and Wales since 2009, Northern Ireland as of 2015 and Scotland as of 2017. A number of cases of suspected femicide are still under investigation, making it likely that the real 2017 figure is higher than that recorded by the report.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/dec/18/femicide-in-uk-76-of-women-killed-by-men-in-2017-knew-their-killer

OP posts:
JacquesHammer · 18/12/2018 12:32

Man-hating right there, telling a poster he’s mansplaining. It’s called explaining, and he just happens to be a man

Utter tripe. He’s not explaining anything. He’s derailing because women happen to be the focus.

nicenewdusters · 18/12/2018 12:32

You're really not very bright AdamNichol are you ? This is a hugely difficult subject, ranging from male socialisation, media stereotypes, education, court sentencing, the areas it touches upon are vast.

And you're playing death top trumps by basically saying someone is more likely to die in a road traffic accident. Mumsnet is full of really smart women, I think you've come to the wrong place.

IAteMyGrandma · 18/12/2018 12:32

Common sense?

You’re insane.

IAteMyGrandma · 18/12/2018 12:33

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EwItsAHooman · 18/12/2018 12:33

A PP suggested a curfew for men. That is shameful.

I believe that poster was being sarcastic.

Man-hating right there, telling a poster he’s mansplaining. It’s called explaining, and he just happens to be a man.

Mansplaining is a defined term where a man condescendingly or patronisingly explains a point to women in a way which suggests her view is wrong or misguided. It is specific to men a d it is not man-hating to use it.

JacquesHammer · 18/12/2018 12:34

*Smart women? Crazy, man-hating harpies more like.

I’m sick of it - people like you thinking you speak for all women. Well, you don’t. You give women a bad name*

Wow. MRAs really are fucking thick

ghostyslovesheets · 18/12/2018 12:34

Rather be a Harpie tan a corpse

MadgeMidgerson · 18/12/2018 12:34

on a thread discussing how women were butchered by the very people who should have cherished them, in their own homes some posters are accusing others of being man haters

interesting that this is the big concern for those posters

AdamNichol · 18/12/2018 12:34

we should be concerned about that instead

No. I never ever ever said that.
I said the problem with violence against women can't be properly addressed without looking at why people turn violent and against whom.

IAteMyGrandma · 18/12/2018 12:35

And is there a term for women being patronising or condescending to men, as is happening here?

IAteMyGrandma · 18/12/2018 12:36

I’m not ‘fucking thick’ thank you. But you think other women thank you for behaving like this? You’re wrong.

UpstartCrow · 18/12/2018 12:36

So many rules of misogyny being acted out by bitter, butthurt men;

1st rule of misogyny: Women are responsible for what men do.
2nd rule of misogyny: Women saying no to men is a hate crime.
3rd rule of misogyny: Women speaking for themselves are exclusionary and selfish.
4th rule of misogyny: Women's opinions are violence against men thus male violence against women is justified.
5th rule of misogyny: WATM! Women and Feminism must be useful to men or they are worthless.
6th rule of misogyny: Women who go around being female AT men by menstruating and breast feeding babies deserve punishment.
7th rule of misogyny: Women should always be grateful to men for everything.
8th rule of misogyny: Men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are.
9th rule of misogyny: Men always know the "real reasons" for everything women do and say.
10th rule of misogyny: The worst thing about male violence is that it males men look bad.
11th rule of misogyny: Basic pattern recognition skills are cruel and evil when they hurt men's feelings.
12th rule of misogyny: whatever women suffer from, men suffer from more.
13th rule of misogyny: Women's ability to recognize male behavior patterns is misandry

thebewilderness Mon 21-May-18 23:00:07

MadgeMidgerson · 18/12/2018 12:36

people aren’t turning violent

MEN are, against each other, and against their partners

name the problem Adam babe

JacquesHammer · 18/12/2018 12:36

I’m not ‘fucking thick’ thank you. But you think other women thank you for behaving like this? You’re wrong

Tell you what, you do something to disabuse me of that notion and I’ll reconsider...

JacquesHammer · 18/12/2018 12:37

why people turn violent

Men. Why men turn violent.

IAteMyGrandma · 18/12/2018 12:37

@UpstartCrow

What a load of bullshit.

EwItsAHooman · 18/12/2018 12:38

people like you thinking you speak for all women. Well, you don’t. You give women a bad name.

Once again pedalling the notion that women are responsible for the reputation and behaviour of women everywhere, as well as responsible for solving the problems of violce against them by men. One woman is considered to be much the same as any other because, to certain people, we're all the same. Interchangeable.

Does anyone ever tell men they're giving all men a bad name? No. Because men are only ever considered to be responsible for themselves which is where the utterly pathetic "not all men!" whining comes from.

I can't quite decide if Iatemygrandma is Adam's sock-puppet or if he's a friend that Adam roped in because he was scared he was about to his arse handed to him.

IAteMyGrandma · 18/12/2018 12:39

Same women need to speak up against women who hate men in this way. You’re doing women no favours. But women are busy being sensible and carrying on with life.

Pumperthepumper · 18/12/2018 12:39

IAteMyGrandma what’s your opinion on the report linked in the OP? What can be done for male violence towards women?

JacquesHammer · 18/12/2018 12:40

Same women need to speak up against women who hate men in this way

Do you need it explaining in teeny tiny words?

EwItsAHooman · 18/12/2018 12:40

is there a term for women being patronising or condescending to men, as is happening here?

Do you mean "speaking"? Because when women speak their minds they get labelled as harpies, bitches, ball-breakers, mouthy cows.... - do I need to do on?

MadgeMidgerson · 18/12/2018 12:41

‘some women are carrying on with life’

yes, and some aren’t because they are being murdered

as long as no ones being mean to men though, hey?

IAteMyGrandma · 18/12/2018 12:42

I’ll leave you to it. I can’t give any more of my time to such nonsense. You’re creating the very thing you fear.

UpstartCrow · 18/12/2018 12:43

1st rule of misogyny: Women are responsible for what men do.

JacquesHammer · 18/12/2018 12:43

You’re creating the very thing you fear

Of course: women you are totally to blame for male violence.

I’ll leave you to it

Only sensible and well-thought our post you’ve made.