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***WARNING DISTRESSING CONTENT*** 139 Women murdered by men in 2017

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CaveMum · 18/12/2018 10:26

I know IANBU but posting here for traffic.

The 2017 Femicide Census was released late yesterday, detailing the women murdered in the UK by men during 2017. Here’s the Guardian’s coverage

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Three-quarters of women killed by men in the UK in 2017 knew the perpetrator, according to a report on femicide.

The Femicide Census, conducted by Women’s Aid and the campaigner Karen Ingala Smith, found that of the 139 women known to have been killed by men in the UK last year, 105 (76%) knew their killer. Thirty women were killed by strangers, with 21 of the 30 killed in terrorist attacks.

The report found that 64 of the women, or 46%, were killed by a current or former intimate partner. Another 24 (17%) were killed by a man known to them – such as a colleague, neighbour or friend – while 17 (12%) were killed by a male family member, of whom 10 were killed by their son. The perpetrator’s relationship to the victim could not be established in four cases.

A sharp instrument was used as a weapon in 66 cases, or 47%, while 82 (59%) were killed at home. More than half of women killed by a former partner were killed within the first month of separation; almost 90% of the same subset were killed within the first year of separation.

For the first time, the Femicide Census collected data on “overkilling”, killings where the force or method used was greater than that required to kill the victim. “Overkilling” was evident in 58 (42%) of the cases.

In one case, a victim was stabbed 175 times, while in others women were “hit 40 times with an axe”, “bludgeoned repeatedly” and “battered virtually beyond all recognition”.

Ingala Smith, the chief executive of the domestic violence charity Nia, said: “The use of excessive violence or desecration after death challenges narratives of momentary loss of control that are especially prevalent in relation to domestic violence.

“Instead it highlights the brutality and misogyny that men bring to their violence against women whether dead or alive and challenges benign rationales given by men which are often accepted and repeated in media coverage of the killings of women.”

Smith said the report challenged widely held assumptions about the nature of violence in society. “The dominant perception of knife crime is one of young men and street violence yet the Femicide Census tells us that 47% of women were killed by knives or sharp objects; in fact, this is the most common method used by men to kill women,” she said.

“It may also surprise some to learn that 40% of women killed by men were aged over 45 and 14% were over the age of 66. Where analyses of violent crime do not look at sex disaggregated data, violence against women continues to be overlooked and made invisible.”

Katie Ghose, the chief executive of Women’s Aid, called on the government to ensure its domestic abuse bill, due to be published imminently, delivered both the legislation and the resources needed to respond effectively to domestic abuse.

“Time and time again, we hear of cases where a woman has been killed by a man as an ‘isolated incident’; yet the latest Femicide Census report shows yet again that this is not the case,” she said. “The majority of these cases are not isolated incidents. There are too many similarities in the circumstances where women are killed by men.”

The Femicide Census contains information on more than 1,000 women killed by men in England and Wales since 2009, Northern Ireland as of 2015 and Scotland as of 2017. A number of cases of suspected femicide are still under investigation, making it likely that the real 2017 figure is higher than that recorded by the report.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/dec/18/femicide-in-uk-76-of-women-killed-by-men-in-2017-knew-their-killer

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Monkeynuts18 · 20/12/2018 20:19

It’s horrifying reading. Ok NAMALT, but as a PP pointed out - BOMALT. Basically only men are like this.

feministfairy · 20/12/2018 20:21

Jessica Eaton - a wonderful woman who runs (with her husband) a charity aimed at adult men. Hugely important

Here's her blog where she talks about how, despite all this work with men, she is persistently harassed and challenged when she dares speak about women:

victimfocus.wordpress.com/2018/01/03/stop-asking-me-what-about-men/

Just like this thread really Sad

CardsforKittens · 20/12/2018 20:22

I think that advantage and privilege is so incredibly complex as to be useless

Maybe you should try harder to understand sociology if you want to make arguments about how society works? Just a thought. Possibly illogical, I wouldn't know.

CryptoFascist · 20/12/2018 21:14

Shall we start a new thread and focus on the women, as the OP intended?

SanFranBear · 20/12/2018 21:17

Monkey - reminds me off this screen grab I took of the BBC news home screen about 3 weeks ago.... Four out of six stories!!

Violence against women is relentless and everywhere whether it's DV, sexual assault or sexual harassment.

***WARNING DISTRESSING CONTENT*** 139 Women murdered by men in 2017
OssomMummy1 · 20/12/2018 21:25

433 men are killed by men. Anyone thought Ho was many of them were to save the life of their mother, sister, wife or daughter? This is why I hate about this website. Completely biased feminists with no respect

SanFranBear · 20/12/2018 21:36

WTF Ossum? Biased feminists? Us pesky women concerned only for women and girls.. Confused

CryptoFascist · 20/12/2018 21:59

Doesn't really matter if they were all knights in shining armour, does it?
Who, after all, are they being killed by?
Name the problem.
Old derailer is right on this, the root cause needs to be addressed. Not by feminists though. Why should we be expected to clear up men's issues?

Seniorschoolmum · 20/12/2018 22:01

Just out of interest, does the survey show how many men were killed by women?

EwItsAHooman · 20/12/2018 22:16

It doesn't show how many men were killed by women but ONS states that 76% of murder suspects in 2017 were male so 24% would be female.

CryptoFascist · 20/12/2018 22:17

We'd also need to know how many women were killed by women. You know, for balance.

CaveMum · 20/12/2018 22:32

Seeing as this report is called “The Femicide Census” then I’d say it’s a pretty moot point to ask if it contains info on the number of men killed by women 🤔

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CryptoFascist · 21/12/2018 07:18

Cavemum - how about starting this thread again and hopefully it won't suffer from whataboutery quite so early on?
I see the derailer stopped posting once the discussion wasn't about him...

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 21/12/2018 08:12

cyrpto

Im admiring your optimism

I am sat here Shock at some of the more recent comments

And i really don't understand the logic of the logical poster and their question 3... why shouldn't men open their own DV centres

CryptoFascist · 21/12/2018 17:21

Because women should do it for them, ideally before opening DV centres for themselves, selfish feminists that they are.

nicenewdusters · 21/12/2018 22:40

Ossom If you want to see a lack of respect in full flow I suggest you look at your post in the context of this thread.

How fucking dare you come on here and start asking women to consider whether the men killed were acting on behalf of women. I take it you did read the OP? You did read what the report was about?

Of course you hate this website. It often suggests that men think about their responsibility for the way they treat women. The truth hurts doesn't it.

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Cuntoid1 · 17/07/2019 01:03

This is sickening.

Lavendercandle · 17/07/2019 12:48

What can we do to stop these men and help prevent more women being killed? What is the solution here?

I've recently been posting under a few different names about my situation. NC again just in case something is outing.

www.theguardian.com/society/2018/oct/14/thousands-fleeing-domestic-violence-squalid-housing-england

This article above (sorry, it's from the Guardian) is why many women don't leave. We need somewhere safe and secure to leave to. Bearing in mind this often has to be out of area as many women are most at risk after leaving.

Personally, I think there's too much focus on emergency refuge - vital, but only a temporary solution. I also wish refuges were nationally funded and had to abide by national standards in terms of basic standards, level of support.

I can't help feeling upset and a little angry when I read about government policy "recognising" financial abuse, media campaigns "raising awareness" of abuse - yet never really anything actually done to help survivors actually survive. I don't see it happening as DV seems fairly low priority with the government despite the odd muttering about taking it seriously or draft bills. As with abusers (or anyone) it's about actions not words.

Takingtherisk · 17/07/2019 13:05

Sorry, I didn't realise that this was a zombie thread. It came up on Active. Also didn't RTFT so didn't realise it had descended into a fairly heated MRA v VAWG debate. I've waded in like a complete fool. Nevermind, it's still an important issue that needs attention zombie thread or not, I've ranted, I'm vented, and now I'll go away and try to focus on doing something constructive!

Takingtherisk · 17/07/2019 13:06

And NC fail to boot! Nevermind again.

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