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To blame Have I Got News For You for the mess we’re currently in?

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BertrandRussell · 13/12/2018 09:03

None of this would have happened if Johnston, Farage and Rees-Mogg hadn’t been invited on and been allowed to present themselves as “good sports”.

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BorisBogtrotter · 18/12/2018 17:34

"Ah, so you want answer that one. Perhaps you could list some Muslim majority countries you would like to live in ?"

Nope because you are setting up the premise to your own ends.

" When did a "far right christian group" ever deliberately drive a massive truck into a huge crowd of people ?"

Finsbury Park attack.

The others? There have been bombs at public events set by Christian groups, and by right wing terrorists, bombs set off in public.

"Beheading Aid workers" ahhhh well the most aid workers murdered in 2017 were killed in South Sudan, a predominantly Christian country.

Try harder.

BorisBogtrotter · 18/12/2018 17:36

"Excuse me, but you are arguing that mass immigration of Muslims into Europe is just fine. And that anyone who doesnt share your view is a bigot or a racist. Are you not ?"

Nope, I'm not saying that at all.

I'm directly saying that your justifications for your objections to it make you a racist and a bigot.

BorisBogtrotter · 18/12/2018 17:38

"Excuse me, but you are arguing that mass immigration of Muslims into Europe is just fine."

Actually I'm saying that there are issues caused by the refugee crisis that are nothing to do with religion, and your attempt to smear every follower of that particular religion with the actions of a tiny minority, make you a racist.

ElonMask · 18/12/2018 17:41

So you believe that far right christian groups (names please) pose an equal threat to global stability as militant Islam ?

ElonMask · 18/12/2018 17:44

And what evidence do you have that it is a "tiny minority" that hold totally backwards and illiberal views ? Perhaps you can provide an example of where a culture dominated by Islam has produced a society you would even feel comfortable, let alone desire to be, living in.

ElonMask · 18/12/2018 17:46

And shame on you for saying that the nice or Manchester attacks were no worse than Finsbury park.

BorisBogtrotter · 18/12/2018 17:47

Again setting the parameters of the question very narrowly.

There are equally many Christian countries where I wouldn't feel comfortable.

BorisBogtrotter · 18/12/2018 17:48

"And shame on you for saying that the nice or Manchester attacks were no worse than Finsbury park."

Conflation, you asked for an attack where the right wing had driven a big van into a group of people, I gave you one.

I never made the comparison with Manchester, you did.

ElonMask · 18/12/2018 17:59

I'll try again, do you believe that far right christian groups (names please) pose an equal threat to global stability as militant Islam ?

Actually I'm saying that there are issues caused by the refugee crisis that are nothing to do with religion

They are entirely to do with religion and a set of quite different values codified by that religion.

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