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To think the council should fix this?

277 replies

beetty · 11/12/2018 16:10

My front door and the frame don't join together properly so it's absolutely freezing in my house.
The drafts are so bad.
They have been out today and say nothing they can do.
Can I have your opinion?
Or advice what I can do please?
It's so cold

To think the council should fix this?
To think the council should fix this?
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BentNeckLady · 11/12/2018 19:09

Have you looked for the EPC yet?

My door was draughty in my old house. I just put up a curtain. It is genuinely what most people would do. You can buy thermal door curtains on amazon for cheap as chips.

wonkylegs · 11/12/2018 19:09

That is a normal door. Sometimes they look a bit wonky but tbh that's fairly normal as buildings move more than you think. If you have draughts then the tape suggested by lots of people here is the appropriate fix.
If you have single glazing that is probably the main reason your flat is freezing, combined with open plan.
The air currents caused by the cold surfaces pulls the draughts through the space.

RB68 · 11/12/2018 19:09

those that won't help themselves...

I would put the draught excluder tape round you can get it at 99p shops etc

If it persists I would get someone in to sort it for me at my expense if getting no joy with council - sounds like it actually needs rehanging correctly

Extrastout · 11/12/2018 19:10

The council are not going to fix a non-existent problem. The door is fine. It's a cold flat because you have an old boiler and single glazing. I don't know how you feel a draught, since the dreaded door is at the bottom of the stairs.
Are you going around in the nip or what?
I've tracksuit bottoms, a t-shirt, a fleece and a dressing gown on.
That's just fucking life.
Do your radiators actually get hot? If they don't, the heating is an issue. If they do, the single glazing will fairly freeze a place alright.
It's. not. the. door. The door is normal.

RB68 · 11/12/2018 19:10

oh and look up how to do the draught excluder - most people do it wrong so it doesn't work - u tube is your friend

ADropofReality · 11/12/2018 19:12

The slipshod and quickfire way the British welfare state was developed, and was so readily accepted by the people, means that even in the 21st century there are people who will not take responsibility for themselves and always take the view "it's the council's/government's/social services'/NHS's fault" and therefore that it's all the council's responsibility, not theirs.

So we get "I shouldn't have to fix it myself". Newsflash: even before "Tory cuts" local government was not just some bottomless pit of cash to fix anything and everything. Go buy a £5 roll of insulating tape, rather than expecting the council to spend £1,000 on a new door.

DeloresJaneUmbridge · 11/12/2018 19:13

So many people have posted since I did.

So sounds like this is normal for wooden doors OP

I know councils are pushed to get properties reset as fast as possible and so sometimes they are let in less than idea condition. Often the issue is on,y cosmetic bit put sometimes it is more problematic,

If they really won’t replace the door then your options come down to reducing any draight with excluders and tapes etc.

Councils are so strapped for cash that they really won’t want to do anything unless it is absolutely essential.

beetty · 11/12/2018 19:14

The EPC says F
I don't know what that means.

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ADropofReality · 11/12/2018 19:15

And if OP is in a maisonette, front door downstairs and living room etc upstairs, draughts should not be getting up there anyway.

myrtleWilson · 11/12/2018 19:16

OP - I've worked in social housing for ages... I know there are good landlords and not great ones. But honestly the door isn't the issue here. Firstly, its not defective, secondly you have single glazing, thirdly you've been advised to check your EPC/SAP rating. You've also been advised to push on when they could fit you in for planned maintenance repairs. Depending on what the rest of the programme looks like they may well be replacing doors. Your HO should be your advocate here but if you just keep banging on about a door that isn't defective you won't get anywhere.

ShalomJackie · 11/12/2018 19:19

EPC ratings: This means that, from April 2018, landlords of privately rented domestic and non-domestic property in England or Wales must ensure that their properties reach at least an Energy Performance Certificate (EPC) rating of E before granting a new tenancy to new or existing tenants.

This relates to private rentals. Your flat would not be allowed to be rented on a private basis! The EPC should also show suggestions as to how you could improve the energy rating and what rating it would bring the property up to if you carried out the suggestions.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 11/12/2018 19:19

OP also, you can ask for an Energy Performance Certificate survey to be carried out to your property.

Beenoutedformyhobby · 11/12/2018 19:20

I've tracksuit bottoms, a t-shirt, a fleece and a dressing gown on.
That's just fucking life

It really isn't

Anyonebut · 11/12/2018 19:20

Can you put a strip on the outside doorframe to create a "step" the way some doorframes do(i.e. as a lid to the gap, parallel to the closed door, not to actually fill in the gap) ? Or maybe they can replace the frame, instead of the door.

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fiorentina · 11/12/2018 19:21

I’m sorry but just sort it yourself. It’s cheap and relatively easy and they’ve said no.
Your house could be warmer tomorrow if you just go to the DIY store and buy and install the cheap insulation tape. Then no more need to moan and you can use your energy on something else..

Nicknacky · 11/12/2018 19:21

So focus on that rather than one door!

myrtleWilson · 11/12/2018 19:23

Right F is very low (but that won't be down to the door alone) there is a new target for energy efficiency for homes to be C by 2030. Now you're a long way off both the target date and the target for energy efficiency but the latter may help you insofar as most programmes will deal with "worst first".
If your HO or maintenance manager can't answer questions about plans to meet this new standard then you could ask your local councillor to intervene.
However, I stress, this isn't about the door - its about the whole flat.

dippledorus · 11/12/2018 19:23

Cold air sinks. Does it not?

LordPickle · 11/12/2018 19:24

Looks standard, just put weatherstripping on.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 11/12/2018 19:24

rating F not the worst but not the best either, however this will be down to the property being single glazed/old boiler, but not because of one external door.

Beenoutedformyhobby · 11/12/2018 19:24

Fucking hell
On here you get people moaning about 1500 quid a month mortgages and there's a social housing tenant fucking freezing being slagged off because she can't or won't buy a front door when she's paying rent to have the house maintained normally.
It really isn't normal to sit in jumpers and dressing gowns because your house is so cold.
If you choose to buy a bloody Victorian mansion with crap windows to do up then yes. But no normal house or flat should be that cold. Really shouldn't.
It's like saying go and buy your own food when you moan that the foodbank stuff is nasty/not fit for purpose.
Same kind of situation.
I think there's a LOT of jealousy on here towards social housing tenants.

BentNeckLady · 11/12/2018 19:25

It means your house is about as energy inefficient as it’s possible to be. Did it tell you what is achievable?

You could use that as leverage with the council for your windows ( and door probably) boiler and insulation as social landlords are supposed to be aiming to get their homes up to a b or c, I can’t remember which.

That’s probably a long term thing you’d want to get your local councillor involved in. Your home shouldn’t have been let with a 30 year old kitchen and single glazing. I’d be surprised if it meets decent homes standard ( that’s another thing to use as leverage)

In the short term though, buy some draught tale and a curtain :)

Nicknacky · 11/12/2018 19:26

I’m not jealous 😂

myrtleWilson · 11/12/2018 19:26

been - I don't think thats true. I think many of us have been trying to direct the OP constructively. Focusing on the door alone is the wrong angle. The door could be changed tomorrow but that won't help with the inefficient boiler and single glazing.

italiancortado · 11/12/2018 19:26

I've just made another repair request online and stated again the problem.
Il keep doing it till the fix the problem

What fucking problem? You have been told there is no problem. Repeatedly reporting something they have already told you is fine will do nothing but antagonise them.

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