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To think the council should fix this?

277 replies

beetty · 11/12/2018 16:10

My front door and the frame don't join together properly so it's absolutely freezing in my house.
The drafts are so bad.
They have been out today and say nothing they can do.
Can I have your opinion?
Or advice what I can do please?
It's so cold

To think the council should fix this?
To think the council should fix this?
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Evidencebased · 11/12/2018 19:37

This won't help anyone in council or housing association houses, so sorry for that, but if you're a tenant in a privately rented house, and you are old/ ill/ have children & get some tax credits for them / other things may apply,/: Then, there are grants for insulating the house. Possibly even double glazing. Even though it's privately owned by your landlord, if you're paying the heating cost, you may be eligible for help.
www.government-grants.co.uk/insulation-grants-for-landlords-with-tenants

BentNeckLady · 11/12/2018 19:40

Have you got any form of heating in the living room - a blow heater? It seems to be that your priority is to get 2 thermal door curtains, one for the living room and one for the front door. Use the living room as your main room and heat that and then least you’ll be warm .Get some draught tape for your doors and windows, maybe some cheap thick curtains from charity shops for the windows.

Then sit in your one warm room and write to your councillor citing your reasons for your home needing modernisation.

Don’t badger them about the door. It’s not the problem and they’ll have you down as a habitual complainer and won’t take you seriously.

Travisandthemonkey · 11/12/2018 19:42

You can get those thick door curtains for nothing second hand. A door rail is about a fiver.
Tape a couple of quid.
It’s not great. But you can carry on complaining, but use them as an interim measure. Surely you don’t want to continue paying for heating at this rate
Also you can get double glazing type stuff that you can stick on your windows.

Look the point is, as much as you don’t want it to be the case, this is what you’re stuck with. The council are not going to change their mind and you’re just going to get more and more pissed off.
So there is literally no point.

wonkylegs · 11/12/2018 19:43

If the building fabric is shit - that's the level of insulation through walls, ceiling, floor, single glazing etc then no matter how much you heat the house it will escape to outside. Your door will not be the biggest culprit, it will be your windows and possibly your loft.

You need to find out as others have said about the programme of improvements your council will be doing (albeit slowly) such as fitting single glazing, insulation etc as this will be the only way to make a real difference and keep pointing out you have a F rated flat so should be a priority. However temporary fixes are to line curtains with blankets, wear more clothes especially socks (cold feet make you feel colder) or heat you rather than the room (hot water bottle, small heater).

Shouting repeatedly about a non problem and jumping down people's throats when they make valid suggestions will not get your problem fixed any quicker and you are less likely to be taken seriously as they may just dismiss you as a PITA. This is the same for council or private tenants.

Heratnumber7 · 11/12/2018 19:43

Cold air won't rise up the stairs, so it's probably not the door gaps that are making your flat cold.

MrMeSeeks · 11/12/2018 19:45

I've just made another repair request online and stated again the problem.
Il keep doing it till the fix the problem.
Fed up with being fobbed off

My.god. What are you reading as it clearly cant be this threadHmm
Guess what, my door has bigger gaps than this, because its a wooden door!
I use a draft excluder!
You can keep obsessing ( and getting no where because there’s nothing wrong) or you can actually do sonething.

beetty · 11/12/2018 19:48

Yes they did take out the fire.
They taking out all the fires as they don't want to maintain them.

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Nicknacky · 11/12/2018 19:49

The lack of fire isn’t a major issue if you have other methods of heating in the room. Plenty of people don’t have fires.

I assume you have radiators?

beetty · 11/12/2018 19:49

Do you think it's hilarious that this is the state of where I'm living?
@italiancortado all you've done is make sarcastic comments.
Probably sat in a lovely owned home with double glazing and not freezing your arse off every night

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limitedperiodonly · 11/12/2018 19:49

You are a bit strange OP. Put a curtain up.

beetty · 11/12/2018 19:50

Yes there's 2 radiators as the living room is massive but Also the kitchen is open plan but non in kitchen.

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Nicknacky · 11/12/2018 19:50

Who said it’s funny. People have tried to tell you it isn’t the door and they are right.

And there are posters who work in housing who have advised you and you have ignored everything they have said.

beetty · 11/12/2018 19:50

What's strange about it?
Sick of being freezing and wasting money
Ok then if that makes me "strange"

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myrtleWilson · 11/12/2018 19:52

The thing is OP - you've been given loads of really useful advice which you've not acknowledged at all - just carried on moaning. So it kinda seems pointless carrying on. I'm out

TulipsInbloom1 · 11/12/2018 19:55

OP it may be worth bidding for other properties. You may end up with one with Upvc doors and windows.

The reason the HA cant help is because it is not in a state of disrepair. Maybe you could ask for some info on their investment schemes and see when they have a door/window replacement scheme coming up.

Does your council have any sort of tenant groups/scrutiny groups? Its good to get involved in the plans on upgrades and investment works and tenant views on this is key to shaping how the money is spent.

MrMeSeeks · 11/12/2018 19:57

The thing is OP - you've been given loads of really useful advice which you've not acknowledged at all - just carried on moaning. So it kinda seems pointless carrying on.

Agree. Seems like you just want us to agree that the council is crap ( which they aren’t)

We have a cold house ( no nothing to do with the gaps!) we get on with it.
Draft excluders, thick curtains, thick clothes.

HappyStripper · 11/12/2018 19:59

BUY SOME OF THE TAPE EVERYONE HAS RECOMMENDED TO SEAL IT

I don’t know how 10 pages of replies haven’t drilled it in. The council has housed you, they’ve done their job. You can stick a bit of tape around a door. The level of entitlement is crazy. It’s like if you asked for the whole wall to be repainted due to one slight mark.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 11/12/2018 20:00

Yes they did take out the fire. They taking out all the fires as they don't want to maintain them INCORRECT.

Its nothing to do with the maintenance of the appliances, and all about government green agenda to lower carbon footprint in homes, more so when there is central heating in properties.

theworldistoosmall · 11/12/2018 20:02

So you've had two years to sort out some door stuff and not done a thing?
If you had done all of what has been advised already, you would be a tad warmer.
Yes, you are in a council property, however, they don't do every single repair. They haven't got the money to do it hence lots of properties are in a poor state of repair.

GimmeGimmeHellYeah · 11/12/2018 20:03

Have you considered an electric throw for the sofa? One of those costs pennies to heat.
I am home most days and can't afford to run the heating constantly (just for a couple of hours morning and evening when the kids are here), but an electric blanket keeps me cosy at a very low cost.

Racecardriver · 11/12/2018 20:03

This is pretty standard in British homes from my experience. Subsidence is pretty common in my experience. Just get some sticky black foam sheets and attach them to your door frame to fit your door.

italiancortado · 11/12/2018 20:04

Do you think it's hilarious that this is the state of where I'm living?
italiancortado all you've done is make sarcastic comments

Actually it's not. What i did was point out many times that the door is not your problem. You are not willing to listen. In fact, my comments probably became worse in line with the more you posted about how awful your housing situation is. Not because i think it's funny, but because your unwillingness to accept any responsibility for your own self is frustrating.

Probably sat in a lovely owned home with double glazing and not freezing your arse off every night

I do have double glazing yes. I'm not about to feel guilty for that.

I must admit, when you added the bit about the fires being removed to all the rest as yet another ridiculous defence I did think you were taking the piss.

RCohle · 11/12/2018 20:11

Hot air is less dense than cold air, so hot air rises. Any cold air that is coming in through the gap in the door will not be rising up the stairs to make the rest of the house cold. There are likely to be other issues causing your house to be cold.

Travisandthemonkey · 11/12/2018 20:17

But your simply not going to win
It’s called using basic intelligence.

Problem - I’ve complained, they’re not going to fix it imminently, it may well be fixed in the future

Do I
A- get really angry about it and complain inssesnetly whilst paying a huge amount for heating and nothing changes

B- find another solution

Unfortunately, even if you were in private and the landlord said it was ok then there wouldn’t be a lot of recourse other than to move or go through a lengthy process of complaint.

But you are not with a private landlord. You’re with the council and if it meets their regulatory standards then there is little you can do.
So you can behave like a grown up with a problem to solve via many routes or you can sit and complain.

The former will work. The latter won’t. Fact

ShalomJackie · 11/12/2018 20:20

Did you not notice it was cold.in the winters of 2016 and 2017 then?

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