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Ian Huntley ! This is wrong...

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HJWT · 09/12/2018 12:10

I just don't have words

Ian Huntley ! This is wrong...
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Datun · 10/12/2018 20:40

Not everybody agrees with the extremists.

Except transsexuals, obvs.

VisitorsEntrance · 10/12/2018 20:40

Please answer my question Verbeena

You said ‘not all of us are saying no to all transwomen as they'll always be a man’

Are you saying that you acknowledge they will always be a man but you will include them anyway
Or
That at some point they stop being a man and become a woman?

sackrifice · 10/12/2018 20:41

I CAN see it, which is why I know it is absolutely pointless saying it again for the ones at the back playing faux innocence, as to them it isn't extreme. So they don't see it when it's there

Where is it then? Point it out or cease this relentless nonsense.

littlbrowndog · 10/12/2018 20:42

Verbeena
Oh ffs don’t even bother littlebrowndog
😂😂😂

Ereshkigal · 10/12/2018 20:42

keep saying I'm not saying no to all transwomen which you us all to say.

Then what is your criteria, so we can all aspire to your reasonable non extremeness?

Ereshkigal · 10/12/2018 20:43

Where is it then? Point it out or cease this relentless nonsense.

She's derailed at least 5 threads with this bullshit.

littlbrowndog · 10/12/2018 20:44

You for sure know how to bore the fuck out of a thread

Littlebrowndog

You said you wouldn’t engage

Ereshkigal · 10/12/2018 20:45

As for "faux innocence" - quite a DARVO.

littlbrowndog · 10/12/2018 20:45

It’s just boring the fuck out

VerbeenaBeeks · 10/12/2018 20:47

She's derailed at least 5 threads with this bullshit

No, SEE what is actually being said! It is on this thread, and even right under the actual posts, you get people saying "what? That's not extreme."
Even if it is.
If you want to exclude all of the transwomen, and tell them all to go away as they're never going to be one of us whatever they do, that in itself is an extreme stance to start with.
Oh look, said it again! But you won't see that, will you? You'll just say yet again that I've never said it.
As you'll never accept any of them. Ever.

R0wantrees · 10/12/2018 20:47

So, what about Michelle?

"They include Michelle Lewin, 51, a transgender paedophile born Shaun Pudwell, who has been moved to a women’s prison despite a history of grooming underage girls.

Female inmates at HMP Peterborough, many of whom are vulnerable or abuse victims, are said to be terrified of Lewin who has been legally certified as female.

Lewin’s Gender Recognition Certificate (GRC) means she does not appear in prison statistics as transgender and therefore is not one of the 139 inmates recorded by authorities this year.

Any prisoner who has received a GRC is legally categorised by their new gender so is not included in the numbers of transgender inmates."

www.thesun.co.uk/news/7851765/transgender-prisoner-numbers-rise-sparking-fresh-safety-fears-over-womens-jails/

I don't think it is an 'extreme' position to say that this male paedophile who has a GRC should not be the female estate.

I think the MoJ should be able to/required to hold meaningful data that records how many males with GRC & females with GRC are in eaither prison estate.

I think that the impact that a male paedophile has on vulnerable female inmates should be investigated.
That the female inmates who have been abused and who are affected by being locked in with a predatory paedophile should not be shamed, labelled transphobic or prevented from identifying the cause of their distress eg being locked in with a male who has been convicted of abusing girls.
I don't think Lewin's crimes should be simply recorded as committed by a 'female' regardless of GRC, surgery, hormones, dress choices, name or preferred pronouns etc.

I believe the MoJ and government are failing in their duty of care to the female inmates at HMP Peterborough.

I know that humans can't change sex.

littlbrowndog · 10/12/2018 20:47

Eek still boring

Ereshkigal · 10/12/2018 20:48

Which MTFs would you include?

Ereshkigal · 10/12/2018 20:49

that in itself is an extreme stance to start with.

All we are doing is asking for single sex spaces. That's not extreme.

VerbeenaBeeks · 10/12/2018 20:49

Eek still boring

Well, seeing as I answered when you really wanted me to, that reply shows you really don't want to know - which is why people can't see it even when it is said.

littlbrowndog · 10/12/2018 20:50

Jeez haha still banging on about nothing

VerbeenaBeeks · 10/12/2018 20:51

Thought you wanted to know? You're just showing why you all don't want to know really and you can see it in the first place.
As I said, faux innocence.

Ereshkigal · 10/12/2018 20:52

You haven't confirmed which group of MTF trans people you include, Verbeena. So we can't see it.

littlbrowndog · 10/12/2018 20:52

Round and round and round
Saying nothing
But still going round and round
So we lose track of th3 original post
Is tha5 you intent
If it is be up front and say it

Ereshkigal · 10/12/2018 20:53

As I said, faux innocence.

As I said, DARVO. As I said, derailing multiple threads.

littlbrowndog · 10/12/2018 20:54

You derailed this thread with your going round and round
Very disrespectful

Ereshkigal · 10/12/2018 20:54

Spot on littlbrowndog

VerbeenaBeeks · 10/12/2018 20:54

Round and round and round
Saying nothing
But still going round and round

Yup, because that is the way it always goes, I've said all along round and round and round. Got that right,at least.

Ereshkigal · 10/12/2018 20:55

Why not be quiet then? Since you've demonstrated you have nothing to say? Just a suggestion?

littlbrowndog · 10/12/2018 20:56

So that’s the aim ?
Derail thread ?