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To think he should NEVER be released - HORRIFIC STORY WARNING ***warning reiterated by MNHQ - disturbing content***

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ShockedandOutraged · 04/12/2018 09:44

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6457161/Hes-bad-Ian-Brady.html#article-6457161

After committing a crime like this, it can never be guaranteed that this man is not a risk to society. What parameters do the Parole Board use to determine this? He has not been around to lose his temper/in a position to kill children while inside.

The reports details a network of 'friends' that this fiend has as support when he's out. Who on earth could be friends with something like this?

How can he even want to be released? If he had any remorse he'd have killed himself before now.

The poor parents of these children. Is there anyway they can fight against this?

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SlothMama · 04/12/2018 10:20

I think a life sentence needs to be reworded, he hasn't received a life sentence. He took 3 childrens futures away and destroyed a family, how can he be released? To murder three innocent children and impale them that goes deeper than an act of passion, that's downright evil. And I don't care how much they believe he's reformed, that creature doesn't deserve to walk the streets.

Augusta2012 · 04/12/2018 10:21

I find it disturbing that they accept his explanation he killed all three children because he was ‘stressed’ by one of them crying, which in turn they have used to justify his release by saying he now knows how to deal with stressful situations.

When men kill children because they lose control because of stress, it’s usually one action done in a snapping moment - a baby thrown onto a had floor or a wall or shaken vigorously.

This man killed three children, each with a different method, and then impaled them on spikes. That’s sadism, not stress. It was deliberate and calculated and methodically planned out - not a moment of madness due to not being able to cope.

It terrifies me that they’ve based their decision to release him on this ‘stress’ claim and his supposedly improved ability to handle stress. It means they’re ignoring whether he got enjoyment and satisfaction from the killings, which would mean no matter how well he could handle stress, he’d still want to hurt children again.

LittleLlamaontheduskyroad · 04/12/2018 10:21

I've just read this on the BBC. It made my blood run cold. I don't believe that he should be released either. There's clearly something very very wrong in him. To kill 3 little children in 3 different ways and then impale them on spikes is like something out of a horror movie. How can they say he is ok now? That kind of behaviour comes from deep within. I don't believe that he won't be a danger to the general public.

anothermothersusername · 04/12/2018 10:24

I just searched for a petition but I haven’t found anything so far.

LittleLlamaontheduskyroad · 04/12/2018 10:25

I also think that the UK should bring in a system like the US, whereby you could have given him 3 life sentences instead of just one, to run one after the other. They can sentence people to 1000 years or something as well can't they? It would essentially stop release, as you could commute it to say 500 years for "good behaviour."

MarilynSlumroe · 04/12/2018 10:26

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one2three4five · 04/12/2018 10:26

Bloody hell, we put dogs to sleep when they bite (not me personally!), because there seems to be some sort of general consensus that once a dog has bitten it can't be trusted again. Yet we're releasing monsters like this back into society because they are apparently miraculously rehabilitated?! It's sickening.

Cleo18 · 04/12/2018 10:26

The mother's life has been taken from her too. How could you ever recover from that? This is a death penalty case if ever there was one. (I do not support the Death Penalty - never have and would still vote against it but there are times when I think it would be fitting)

ReflectentMonatomism · 04/12/2018 10:27

Don’t you trust the parole board to have all the relevant information to make this decision?

No. In the Warboys case, they spend forty minutes taking evidence from three psychologists, all of them paid by Warboys, before deciding he was safe to release immediately. The ignored the evidence of prison psychologists who said the precise opposite. The courts found that they failed to consider other information, failed to properly assess his state of mind and failed to consider that his purported remorse was of a piece with his history as a manipulative liar. They were do-gooders who were taken in, because they were too busy understanding the poor misunderstood rapist and indifferent to the risk he presented.

One might also point to the case of Anthony Rice, released by the Parole Board on the basis of his "human rights" who went on to commit a brutal murder. It's regulator capture: naive do-gooders meet manipulative criminals.

Which part of the Warboys case, from the decision, the press release on Boxing Day, the court hearings and the resignation of the chair of the parole board makes you trust its judgements?

FamilyOfAliens · 04/12/2018 10:31

Absolutely horrific, it’s times like this I wish we had the American prison sentencing.

You mean a system where poor, non-white, disenfranchised men and women are significantly more likely to be sentenced to death than white people with money and status?

Sounds great.

Bittermints · 04/12/2018 10:31

No doubt in my mind life should mean life in this case. McGeavry can never be considered safe to live outside prison.

Cleo18 · 04/12/2018 10:32

If I murder my neighbour - who is being unreasonable about parking - but I'll never do it again because I'll be moving myself in six months then I am not a danger to society.

If I bump off my DH because he is rich then I'll be rich and won't need to murder anyone else - hence no danger to society.

It should not be the criterion used in cases like this. (And anyway - agree with others that this man is very ikely to be a danger - especially when faced with the difficulties of living openly)

VictoryOrValhalla · 04/12/2018 10:33

It doesn’t matter if this is the nicest man ever to exist in a prison. He deliberately took three lives. The punishment for that should be loss of liberty for life. Not loss of liberty until you’ve perfected the “butter wouldn’t melt” look. This isn’t about whether he’ll do it again, it’s about the fact he did it.

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ShockedandOutraged · 04/12/2018 10:34

Well they obviously don't take into account the impact on the parents (as they can't take emotion into account in law Hmm).

They are only taking into account the probability of re-offending. Which is what I'm trying to understand.

He was known to these children and had played with them. They trusted him.

Utter bullshit it was 'stress'. What stress? He was only left with them for a short time while the father picked up the mother from work. He could have walked out of the house and left them. Better they had an accident due to being left alone than this. They weren't his children.

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VictoryOrValhalla · 04/12/2018 10:37

He was a lodger in their house. He was used to hearing the baby crying. He’d heard that sound a million times before and if the dad trusted him enough to mind them while he collected mum then that tells us he’d spent time with the babies enough that dad knew he wasn’t clueless.

SylviaAndSidney · 04/12/2018 10:39

You mean a system where poor, non-white, disenfranchised men and women are significantly more likely to be sentenced to death than white people with money and status?

Sounds great.

Did you purposely miss the bit where I wrote “it’s times like this”? I don’t agree with the death penalty either but could possibly make an exception for crimes as abhorrent as this one. I still wouldn’t vote for the death penalty, or actually want the American justice system, but crack on.

recklessruby · 04/12/2018 10:39

Bloody hell that's awful. I was a little kid then so never knew about this.
No he should never be released. That poor family. Those kids would be my age now and it's not right they had that taken away.
For what? A monster lost control.
I wish he'd got the death penalty but that was abolished here before I was born.
And 67 s not old. You don't have to be that strong to kill a little kid. He's playing games with the parole board and he is still a threat imo.

FamilyOfAliens · 04/12/2018 10:40

I do not support the Death Penalty - never have and would still vote against it but there are times when I think it would be fitting

So you do support the death penalty Confused

picklepost · 04/12/2018 10:41

I think it's OK for him to be released. And I think it's a great relief that the parole board doesn't consider ignorant rants like those above when they make their decisions.

RatRolyPoly · 04/12/2018 10:42

The mother said if he was released she'd be waiting outside with a gun.

There's no doubt in my mind that I would do exactly that. No shred of doubt at all.

KS34 · 04/12/2018 10:42

I find it hard to believe he poses no risk, but even if he doesn't, some crimes are so horrendous the criminal doesn't deserve to ever leave prison alive. If this isn't one of those situations then goodness knows what is. Completely disgusting.

anothermothersusername · 04/12/2018 10:42

I don’t for a second believe that the parole board really think he no longer poses a threat to society. I doubt any of them would want him anywhere near their own children / grand children.

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ShockedandOutraged · 04/12/2018 10:43

Why do you think it's OK Picklepost.

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PoesyCherish · 04/12/2018 10:44

What the actual fuck. Who does that?! YADDDDNBU!!!

LylaBee · 04/12/2018 10:44

I think it's OK for him to be released. And I think it's a great relief that the parole board doesn't consider ignorant rants like those above when they make their decisions.

What the fuck???